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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Just having a play around on overthecap Of course there is more that can be done with bonuses etc but that just shifts more money forward again and the cap jump isn't happening anytime soon by the looks of things ...

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Old 01-18-2021, 01:57 PM   #11
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Just having a play around on overthecap

Of course there is more that can be done with bonuses etc but that just shifts more money forward again and the cap jump isn't happening anytime soon by the looks of things


Just trying to get the Cap down to a level balance

Brees - Post June 1st retirement - leaves 11ml to carry over to 2022 Cap
Trade Armstead post June 1st
Trade Thomas June 1st

Cut
Jenkins
Alexander
Easton
Robinson
Murray

Leaves you 14ml over the cap with Ramczyk and Lattimore being 21ml that can be dropped with extensions


Oh and that leaves you with a roster of 37 players
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Old 01-18-2021, 03:02 PM   #12
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Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021

Originally Posted by neugey View Post
The way that Buffalo was able to eventually bring Josh Allen along and turn him into a reliable passer is the blueprint to follow. Not sure if Taysom has that in him. But at 16 million per year, might as well take the chance.
My thoughts. And to the people thinking Taysom restructures after 1 year that’s not happening. I’m fine with Taysom next year and drafting a QB. I have my doubts Taysom will stay healthy the full season though
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Old 01-18-2021, 04:29 PM   #13
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Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021

Originally Posted by lee909 View Post
Just having a play around on overthecap

Of course there is more that can be done with bonuses etc but that just shifts more money forward again and the cap jump isn't happening anytime soon by the looks of things


Just trying to get the Cap down to a level balance

Brees - Post June 1st retirement - leaves 11ml to carry over to 2022 Cap
Trade Armstead post June 1st
Trade Thomas June 1st

Cut
Jenkins
Alexander
Easton
Robinson
Murray

Leaves you 14ml over the cap with Ramczyk and Lattimore being 21ml that can be dropped with extensions


Oh and that leaves you with a roster of 37 players
It's pretty rough... The covid situation really killed Loomis with the cap being lowered. Before the covid issues I think the cap number was around 220-240mil.
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Old 01-18-2021, 04:55 PM   #14
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Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021

Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
It's pretty rough... The covid situation really killed Loomis with the cap being lowered. Before the covid issues I think the cap number was around 220-240mil.


I’m sure loomis will pull something out of his arse
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Old 01-18-2021, 07:43 PM   #15
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Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021

-Extend Hill. Roll the dice. Kick the can down the road.
-Murray, Sanders, Easton and Cook all gone.
-Hendrickson, Alexander, Robertson, Rankins, Janoris Jenkins, both Williams, Robinson, and Morstead gone.
-Trade Armstead. Move Ram to LT. Hurst or Greenridge to RT.
-Trade Davenport. Injuries. Lack of production.
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Old 01-18-2021, 07:45 PM   #16
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They were already flirting with unprecedented territory before trading for Alexander; but now his $13.4 million salary cap hit is on the books. But as large as that mountain appears to be at first blush, the climb to the summit isn’t nearly as difficult as many fear.

For starters, Alexander’s 2021 cap hit is not guaranteed, so the Saints can release him after this season without any financial penalty (but a big pay cut is much more likely, if he proves he can get healthy and help them win games in 2020). That puts New Orleans right back where it started, with San Francisco being the only team involved in this deal to walk away with any dead money.

There are other moves to be made that can lower that salary cap. If Drew Brees retires as anticipated, the Saints will recoup $13.5 million in 2021. Nearly $27.8 million can be freed up between restructures for Terron Armstead, Cameron Jordan, and Michael Thomas (though trading Thomas, as some have speculated, would result in an additional $1.2 million paid out against the cap).

Ryan Ramczyk and Marshon Lattimore are set to earn a combined $21.2 million while playing on their fifth-year options, so signing either of them (or both of them) to a multiyear contract extension would create plenty of breathing room. Nick Underhill of NewOrleans.Football explored more potential offseason moves in greater depth, which you can read here.

If the Saints can complete just the salary cap accounting deals mentioned above, they’ll be resting right around $203 million against the 2021 salary cap. That’s still over the projected limit, but it’s significantly more manageable. It serves to illustrate why all of the handwringing over salary cap calculations is so overrated.

So sure, the Saints have plenty of work to do in the months ahead. But they’ve overcome these kind of obstacles before, and there’s reason to believe they can continue to field a competitive team after doing so again. Finding a worthy successor to Brees remains the biggest challenge ahead of them, even more so than this bean counting.
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:30 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
The way that Buffalo was able to eventually bring Josh Allen along and turn him into a reliable passer is the blueprint to follow. Not sure if Taysom has that in him. But at 16 million per year, might as well take the chance.
Josh Allen has arm talent equivalent to Patrick Mahomes. Taysom Hill isn’t anywhere in that stratosphere. Jameis Winston is more in that category with Mahomes and Allen as far as pure arm talent.
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:34 PM   #18
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Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021

As far as trading Thomas: you really want to trade the best WR on the team when there’s uncertainty at the QB position? We need all the talent we can get there.

Sanders is going to be 34.
Tre’Quan is inconsistent.
The rest of the receivers are unproven.

You wanna throw Winston or Hill out there like that?
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Old 01-18-2021, 09:18 PM   #19
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As far as trading Thomas: you really want to trade the best WR on the team when there’s uncertainty at the QB position? We need all the talent we can get there.

Sanders is going to be 34.
Tre’Quan is inconsistent.
The rest of the receivers are unproven.

You wanna throw Winston or Hill out there like that?
Signing Sanders was a waste as Brees was unable to deliver him the ball down the field where Sanders' game is...

Tre'Quan moves like an old man out on the field; it's nice your WR can block, but you need them to get open as well; speaking of...

Contractually, we have no real viable options other than to keep Thomas, who just went catchless in a playoff game - helluva situation...

And if Thomas isn't going anywhere, likely scenario is to guarantee some more of his contract and roll some of his cap money forward to get down under the cap...

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Old 01-18-2021, 09:24 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
Josh Allen has arm talent equivalent to Patrick Mahomes. Taysom Hill isn’t anywhere in that stratosphere. Jameis Winston is more in that category with Mahomes and Allen as far as pure arm talent.
Taysom has a better arm than you're giving him credit; as said in other thread, 43 yo Tom Brady just took Jameis' team, beat the Saints in the Dome after being swept twice in the regular season...

We've watch Jameis' game for five-plus seasons; his character flaws show up on the field in his game...

Everyone is judging Taysom against Brees after just four games; it's gonna take a full season and some patience to make the transition...

Can see the Saints staying with Winston (if they can afford him), but don't expect him to suddenly play any better than he did in Tampa...
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