New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021

jeanpierre · 01-18-2021, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

As far as trading Thomas: you really want to trade the best WR on the team when there’s uncertainty at the QB position? We need all the talent we can get there.

Sanders is going to be 34.
Tre’Quan is inconsistent.
The rest of the receivers are unproven.

You wanna throw Winston or Hill out there like that?

Signing Sanders was a waste as Brees was unable to deliver him the ball down the field where Sanders' game is...

Tre'Quan moves like an old man out on the field; it's nice your WR can block, but you need them to get open as well; speaking of...

Contractually, we have no real viable options other than to keep Thomas, who just went catchless in a playoff game - helluva situation...

And if Thomas isn't going anywhere, likely scenario is to guarantee some more of his contract and roll some of his cap money forward to get down under the cap...

st thomas · 01-19-2021, 12:22 PM

I’m just getting over my hangover. Never seen a flat offense like the saints in a playoff game year after year. Our oline for some reason is just plain stale. Is it because Tampa finally realized that Drew can’t throw deep anymore. Daring us to beat them deep. The first 3 points just broke me by the saints could not put it in the end zone 2018 all over again. Sorry Drew couldn’t do it for us I’m going to miss him, but I’m optimistic; we’ll lose some quality depth but retool in draft and (has beens) in free agency. Winston may just hang around for the starting job after Payton figured out taysom is struggling to make reads . I’m kinda excited to move on in saints chapter. This team will not go 7-9 next season. It’s built we just have to maintain.

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gosaints1 · 01-19-2021, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I’m just getting over my hangover. Never seen a flat offense like the saints in a playoff game year after year. Our oline for some reason is just plain stale. Is it because Tampa finally realized that Drew can’t throw deep anymore. Daring us to beat them deep. The first 3 points just broke me by the saints could not put it in the end zone 2018 all over again. Sorry Drew couldn’t do it for us I’m going to miss him, but I’m optimistic; we’ll lose some quality depth but retool in draft and (has beens) in free agency. Winston may just hang around for the starting job after Payton figured out taysom is struggling to make reads . I’m kinda excited to move on in saints chapter. This team will not go 7-9 next season. It’s built we just have to maintain.

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It’s how I feel also. It’s a good team, in need of one QB that can run the entire playbook. Getting $100,000,000.00 off the books is going to be tough though, very tough. I’m anxious to see how the Saints attack it!

st thomas · 01-19-2021, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

It’s how I feel also. It’s a good team, in need of one QB that can run the entire playbook. Getting $100,000,000.00 off the books is going to be tough though, very tough. I’m anxious to see how the Saints attack it!

Exactly , the guy we’re going to miss is t-Rex he’s gonna get some serious coin. D-port and graderson will make out just fine. Kwon. ? Thor was the laughing stock this morning on Get- Up sports show he’s was atrocious wtf with Baun man another Bust draft pick? We are still a solid club . This draft is overstocked with talent with all the opt outs and early declares . We need to hit a grand freakin slam in the draft.

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lee909 · 01-21-2021, 03:49 PM

Pretty ugly reading
Show how they can easily make space but its just going to lead to more and more years of limited space to rebuild unless the cap takes some massive jump or players salaries decline steeply

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/b...to-super-bowl/

bobdog86 · 01-21-2021, 05:25 PM

Well, one of the few things consistent in life is change. We all new it was coming. Honestly, for so many years I found myself watching our organization work through the labyrinth of the salary cap and often time being impressed how were able to get things to work....Loomis has a reputation of getting it done year after year, troll any forum from the south, people can't believe how we are able to do it. Yes, I'm a little masochistic, but I'm looking forward to seeing how this goat rope/circus plays out. I trust Loomis, to put a competitive product on the field. Didn't say power house or all world, but we probably wont be dog crap.

lee909 · 01-21-2021, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Well, one of the few things consistent in life is change. We all new it was coming. Honestly, for so many years I found myself watching our organization work through the labyrinth of the salary cap and often time being impressed how were able to get things to work....Loomis has a reputation of getting it done year after year, troll any forum from the south, people can't believe how we are able to do it. Yes, I'm a little masochistic, but I'm looking forward to seeing how this goat rope/circus plays out. I trust Loomis, to put a competitive product on the field. Didn't say power house or all world, but we probably wont be dog crap.

I'll be honest, i would rather be dog crap for a season or two than be a Jeff Fisher 7-9/8-8 team. Them teams get stuck in the mud, too good for a to get the best draft picks and to crap to ever make a run. The difference in a top 7 pick and 15 is massive most years,especially in the 2/3 rounds. Gives you that chance to get a haul of picks in a trade aswell.

bobdog86 · 01-21-2021, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I'll be honest, i would rather be dog crap for a season or two than be a Jeff Fisher 7-9/8-8 team. Them teams get stuck in the mud, too good for a to get the best draft picks and to crap to ever make a run. The difference in a top 7 pick and 15 is massive most years,especially in the 2/3 rounds. Gives you that chance to get a haul of picks in a trade aswell.

I hear ya, and a lot of truth there......but an ass load of picks doesn’t guarantee success. A 10-6 even a 9-7 gets Ya a seat in the dance more often than not, where as 4-12 gets zippo. Some teams perennially have a lot of picks and don’t do sickum, some teams aka Seahawks get value and develop talent. The old days, pre Jim Mora, brought a lot of pain and we had plenty of draft picks each year.

FinSaint · 01-22-2021, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I'll be honest, i would rather be dog crap for a season or two than be a Jeff Fisher 7-9/8-8 team. Them teams get stuck in the mud, too good for a to get the best draft picks and to crap to ever make a run. The difference in a top 7 pick and 15 is massive most years,especially in the 2/3 rounds. Gives you that chance to get a haul of picks in a trade aswell.

I disagree, I want the Saints to win every time they take the field - you play the game to win.

UK_WhoDat · 01-22-2021, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I disagree, I want the Saints to win every time they take the field - you play the game to win.

Yep. PROFESSIONAL sports or otherwise. DO everything you can to be the best, better.

01-18-2021, 09:18 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 Originally Posted by rezburna As far as trading Thomas: you really want to trade the best WR on the team when there’s uncertainty at the QB position? We need all the talent we can get there. Sanders is going to be 34. Tre’Quan is inconsistent. The rest of the receivers are unproven. You wanna throw Winston or Hill out there like that? Signing Sanders was a waste as Brees was unable to deliver him the ball down the field where Sanders' game is... Tre'Quan moves like an old man out on the field; it's nice your WR can block, but you need them to get open as well; speaking of... Contractually, we have no real viable options other than to keep Thomas, who just went catchless in a playoff game - helluva situation... And if Thomas isn't going anywhere, likely scenario is to guarantee some more of his contract and roll some of his cap money forward to get down under the cap... iceshack149, Rsanders24, gosaints1 and 1 others like this.
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01-19-2021, 12:22 PM	#2
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 I’m just getting over my hangover. Never seen a flat offense like the saints in a playoff game year after year. Our oline for some reason is just plain stale. Is it because Tampa finally realized that Drew can’t throw deep anymore. Daring us to beat them deep. The first 3 points just broke me by the saints could not put it in the end zone 2018 all over again. Sorry Drew couldn’t do it for us I’m going to miss him, but I’m optimistic; we’ll lose some quality depth but retool in draft and (has beens) in free agency. Winston may just hang around for the starting job after Payton figured out taysom is struggling to make reads . I’m kinda excited to move on in saints chapter. This team will not go 7-9 next season. It’s built we just have to maintain. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk gosaints1 likes this.
	thats the fact jack!!!!!

01-19-2021, 12:28 PM	#3
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 Originally Posted by st thomas I’m just getting over my hangover. Never seen a flat offense like the saints in a playoff game year after year. Our oline for some reason is just plain stale. Is it because Tampa finally realized that Drew can’t throw deep anymore. Daring us to beat them deep. The first 3 points just broke me by the saints could not put it in the end zone 2018 all over again. Sorry Drew couldn’t do it for us I’m going to miss him, but I’m optimistic; we’ll lose some quality depth but retool in draft and (has beens) in free agency. Winston may just hang around for the starting job after Payton figured out taysom is struggling to make reads . I’m kinda excited to move on in saints chapter. This team will not go 7-9 next season. It’s built we just have to maintain. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It’s how I feel also. It’s a good team, in need of one QB that can run the entire playbook. Getting $100,000,000.00 off the books is going to be tough though, very tough. I’m anxious to see how the Saints attack it! st thomas likes this.
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01-19-2021, 12:47 PM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 Originally Posted by gosaints1 It’s how I feel also. It’s a good team, in need of one QB that can run the entire playbook. Getting $100,000,000.00 off the books is going to be tough though, very tough. I’m anxious to see how the Saints attack it! Exactly , the guy we’re going to miss is t-Rex he’s gonna get some serious coin. D-port and graderson will make out just fine. Kwon. ? Thor was the laughing stock this morning on Get- Up sports show he’s was atrocious wtf with Baun man another Bust draft pick? We are still a solid club . This draft is overstocked with talent with all the opt outs and early declares . We need to hit a grand freakin slam in the draft. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk gosaints1 and MarchingOn like this.

01-21-2021, 03:49 PM	#5
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 Pretty ugly reading Show how they can easily make space but its just going to lead to more and more years of limited space to rebuild unless the cap takes some massive jump or players salaries decline steeply https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/b...to-super-bowl/

01-21-2021, 05:25 PM	#6
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,485	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 Well, one of the few things consistent in life is change. We all new it was coming. Honestly, for so many years I found myself watching our organization work through the labyrinth of the salary cap and often time being impressed how were able to get things to work....Loomis has a reputation of getting it done year after year, troll any forum from the south, people can't believe how we are able to do it. Yes, I'm a little masochistic, but I'm looking forward to seeing how this goat rope/circus plays out. I trust Loomis, to put a competitive product on the field. Didn't say power house or all world, but we probably wont be dog crap.

01-21-2021, 05:37 PM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 Originally Posted by bobdog86 Well, one of the few things consistent in life is change. We all new it was coming. Honestly, for so many years I found myself watching our organization work through the labyrinth of the salary cap and often time being impressed how were able to get things to work....Loomis has a reputation of getting it done year after year, troll any forum from the south, people can't believe how we are able to do it. Yes, I'm a little masochistic, but I'm looking forward to seeing how this goat rope/circus plays out. I trust Loomis, to put a competitive product on the field. Didn't say power house or all world, but we probably wont be dog crap. I'll be honest, i would rather be dog crap for a season or two than be a Jeff Fisher 7-9/8-8 team. Them teams get stuck in the mud, too good for a to get the best draft picks and to crap to ever make a run. The difference in a top 7 pick and 15 is massive most years,especially in the 2/3 rounds. Gives you that chance to get a haul of picks in a trade aswell.

01-21-2021, 08:19 PM	#8
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,485	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 Originally Posted by lee909 I'll be honest, i would rather be dog crap for a season or two than be a Jeff Fisher 7-9/8-8 team. Them teams get stuck in the mud, too good for a to get the best draft picks and to crap to ever make a run. The difference in a top 7 pick and 15 is massive most years,especially in the 2/3 rounds. Gives you that chance to get a haul of picks in a trade aswell. I hear ya, and a lot of truth there......but an ass load of picks doesn’t guarantee success. A 10-6 even a 9-7 gets Ya a seat in the dance more often than not, where as 4-12 gets zippo. Some teams perennially have a lot of picks and don’t do sickum, some teams aka Seahawks get value and develop talent. The old days, pre Jim Mora, brought a lot of pain and we had plenty of draft picks each year.

01-22-2021, 02:19 AM	#9
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 Originally Posted by lee909 I'll be honest, i would rather be dog crap for a season or two than be a Jeff Fisher 7-9/8-8 team. Them teams get stuck in the mud, too good for a to get the best draft picks and to crap to ever make a run. The difference in a top 7 pick and 15 is massive most years,especially in the 2/3 rounds. Gives you that chance to get a haul of picks in a trade aswell. I disagree, I want the Saints to win every time they take the field - you play the game to win. UK_WhoDat likes this.

01-22-2021, 06:52 AM	#10
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap situation heading into 2021 Originally Posted by FinSaint I disagree, I want the Saints to win every time they take the field - you play the game to win. Yep. PROFESSIONAL sports or otherwise. DO everything you can to be the best, better.