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hitta 01-19-2021 08:31 PM

The last 4 playoff games we've lost, we should have won
 
I'm not saying that we had the best team in each of these instances(which we did). We simply put, should have won the games. In each of the games, our efforts were thwarted by complete retardation. If we aren't completely retarded for 1 or 2 plays, we win all 4 games easily. I don't get why we keep shooting ourselves in the foot. You can blame Brees(which he didn't play great and it doesn't seem like he can get the ball down the field anymore). In a few of the years you can blame the defense. The refs played pretty significant roles. I mean you can say the whole team could have played better in all of the games, yet in all 4 games we our TEAM played good enough to win, and yet lost ignorantly. It sometimes feels like we are trying to throw these games.

lee909 01-19-2021 08:43 PM

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You make the mistakes they have made and you don not deserve to win

Lets go back to 2011 and the stupidity in some of the plays against the 49ers

The game at the Vikings, you make that mistake at that time you deserve to get kicked in the balls. Just wrap him up and the games over, hell just slow him down and its over once the cavalry gets there

Rams, screwed by the refs but only after some strange playcalling and crappy turnovers. I mean you have a 3pts lead,kick off with 1:48 left and give up enough yards to give them a 48 yard attempt, they had one time out. Thats some crappy play there.

Tampa, stupid early penalty calling back the return TD,crappy offense all game after the first drive and that many turnovers. You simply don't deserve to win.

And completely outplayed by the vikings last year


The team as a whole have dropped the ball in 2011,2017,2018,2019,2020
Not to make at least one Superbowl in that time with them teams is a failure

vpheughan 01-19-2021 10:24 PM

Re: The last 4 playoff games we've lost, we should have won
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 912847)
You make the mistakes they have made and you don not deserve to win

Lets go back to 2011 and the stupidity in some of the plays against the 49ers

The game at the Vikings, you make that mistake at that time you deserve to get kicked in the balls. Just wrap him up and the games over, hell just slow him down and its over once the cavalry gets there

Rams, screwed by the refs but only after some strange playcalling and crappy turnovers. I mean you have a 3pts lead,kick off with 1:48 left and give up enough yards to give them a 48 yard attempt, they had one time out. Thats some crappy play there.

Tampa, stupid early penalty calling back the return TD,crappy offense all game after the first drive and that many turnovers. You simply don't deserve to win.

And completely outplayed by the vikings last year


The team as a whole have dropped the ball in 2011,2017,2018,2019,2020
Not to make at least one Superbowl in that time with them teams is a failure


30 other teams also fail each year. Ask a Jet, Buffalo or Cleveland fan how'd they'd feel about "Failing" like the Saints for the past 15 years.

BakoSaint 01-19-2021 10:37 PM

Re: The last 4 playoff games we've lost, we should have won
 
From 2005-2013 the Patriots won their division and made the playoffs every season (except the Matt Cassel year when they missed both at 11-5 which pretty damn good still) and yet every year they lost in the playoffs, 8 straight times. Many of the games were close and heart breaking. Winning the division 4 years in a row still matters, and if we keep doing it, the rings can come.

hitta 01-20-2021 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 912856)
30 other teams also fail each year. Ask a Jet, Buffalo or Cleveland fan how'd they'd feel about "Failing" like the Saints for the past 15 years.

Most teams in the playoffs lose because they are worse than the team they are playing. I really don't think this has happened to us in a long time, and I'm trying to be as unbiased as I can possibly be. We do he dumbest ****ing **** in games where we are obviously the superior team. The Brees interceptions just all looked horrible, still I think without that Jared Cook fumble or the Brees int early in the game when we had the lead and was about to ahead by multiple scores, we win the game by multiple scores. I think we started making dumb mistakes, and dumb play calling followed. We lost by 10 to and we could have won that game by 14-21 points without just a couple of ****ups.

lee909 01-20-2021 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 912856)
30 other teams also fail each year. Ask a Jet, Buffalo or Cleveland fan how'd they'd feel about "Failing" like the Saints for the past 15 years.

It's still failing though.
How often is the Bronze medalist remembered?

For a team as packed as the Saints not to have made the big show show its still failure. Being in England and having watched my team win every trophy except the national league trophy, I can tell you it was always we have not won the trophy we need to win. Successful seasons still didn't win the big one. Well till last year.

At the end of your career you don't count pro bowls appearances or division titles.


You can see the team had a good season etc and not win it. But for the last few years the team has gone all in to win the lot. That's why they are sitting here $95ml above the cap

FinSaint 01-20-2021 03:02 AM

Re: The last 4 playoff games we've lost, we should have won
 
Another Lombardi would no doubt be great, but ever since I started following the Saints circa 97-98 - that following has been a source of entertaiment for me, first and foremost.

I've been entertained in the past and I was entertained this season, and that is all I can ask for as someone who doesn't have any effect on how the seasons unfold.

As a former semi-pro team sport athlete I can say from a personal perspective that looking back you miss your teammates and playing the game itself - not the games you won or loss while playing.

Now, it might be different to the elite athletes like Brees, but then again, it might not be any different.

UK_WhoDat 01-22-2021 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 912862)
Most teams in the playoffs lose because they are worse than the team they are playing..............

Yes, in THAT game. The best or most favoured team does not always win (thank goodness).

73Saint 01-22-2021 10:11 AM

Re: The last 4 playoff games we've lost, we should have won
 
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 912868)
Another Lombardi would no doubt be great, but ever since I started following the Saints circa 97-98 - that following has been a source of entertaiment for me, first and foremost.

I've been entertained in the past and I was entertained this season, and that is all I can ask for as someone who doesn't have any effect on how the seasons unfold.

As a former semi-pro team sport athlete I can say from a personal perspective that looking back you miss your teammates and playing the game itself - not the games you won or loss while playing.

Now, it might be different to the elite athletes like Brees, but then again, it might not be any different.

very well said, I totally agree.

st thomas 01-22-2021 11:35 AM

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All I can say is the weekend is approaching and the bigger knot I have in my gut. We are not going to the championship game or anywhere else. But yes thank goodness for Brees and saints football , now we wait for spring the draft the cuts and the tears.


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dizzle88 01-22-2021 11:37 AM

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Like it or not, this team chokes in the big games.

2017 speaks for itself.
2018 - Allowed Rams to stay in the game and let the Refs get involved.
2019 and 2020, I don't know which effort was worse. Both times they came out looking uninspired, at home, against teams that they should have beat.

2018 - Eagles nearly beat us
2020 - Bears nearly beat us.

K Major 01-22-2021 11:59 AM

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st thomas 01-22-2021 12:05 PM

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I can see the closer to Sunday it gets the tougher it gets . It Fuicking sucks sorry that’s all it is we are tired of this Crappie play in the playoffs. Looking to the future with no Drew Brees let us move on.


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NOLA54 01-22-2021 12:24 PM

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We have been pitiful in the playoffs and it has cost us at the minimum 1 more Super bowl.

Boston Saint 01-22-2021 01:07 PM

Re: The last 4 playoff games we've lost, we should have won
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 913063)
Like it or not, this team chokes in the big games.

2017 speaks for itself.
2018 - Allowed Rams to stay in the game and let the Refs get involved.
2019 and 2020, I don't know which effort was worse. Both times they came out looking uninspired, at home, against teams that they should have beat.

2018 - Eagles nearly beat us
2020 - Bears nearly beat us.

IDK what to say dizz. Does it make you feel better if Saints fans say we suck and get upset about the loss? As lots have tried to point out, only one team each year is the champ team. We’ve got a hell of a lot closer( and won one) than most teams ever dreamed of being over the last 12 years. Go ahead and b!tch about what the team didn’t win if you want. I’ll take what they did.

dizzle88 01-22-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 913068)
IDK what to say dizz. Does it make you feel better if Saints fans say we suck and get upset about the loss? As lots have tried to point out, only one team each year is the champ team. We’ve got a hell of a lot closer( and won one) than most teams ever dreamed of being over the last 12 years. Go ahead and b!tch about what the team didn’t win if you want. I’ll take what they did.

You do you bro.

I'm allowed to say my piece just like everyone.

TheOak 01-22-2021 03:28 PM

Re: The last 4 playoff games we've lost, we should have won
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 913063)
Like it or not, this team chokes in the big games.

2017 speaks for itself.
2018 - Allowed Rams to stay in the game and let the Refs get involved.
2019 and 2020, I don't know which effort was worse. Both times they came out looking uninspired, at home, against teams that they should have beat.

2018 - Eagles nearly beat us
2020 - Bears nearly beat us.

There is only 1 Super Bowl winner each year so by your logic 31 teams choke in their big games each season. Some more than once.

dizzle88 01-22-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 913070)
There is only 1 Super Bowl winner each year so by your logic 31 teams choke in their big games each season. Some more than once.

Very true, however we are the only team in the Superbowl era to win 49 games over 4 years and not make a Superbowl appearance.

SmashMouth 01-22-2021 05:46 PM

Re: The last 4 playoff games we've lost, we should have won
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 912844)
I'm not saying that we had the best team in each of these instances(which we did). We simply put, should have won the games. In each of the games, our efforts were thwarted by complete retardation. If we aren't completely retarded for 1 or 2 plays, we win all 4 games easily. I don't get why we keep shooting ourselves in the foot. You can blame Brees(which he didn't play great and it doesn't seem like he can get the ball down the field anymore). In a few of the years you can blame the defense. The refs played pretty significant roles. I mean you can say the whole team could have played better in all of the games, yet in all 4 games we our TEAM played good enough to win, and yet lost ignorantly. It sometimes feels like we are trying to throw these games.

Blame SP!


When will the Whole Foods meat guy make him accountable?

WhoDat!656 01-22-2021 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 913063)
Like it or not, this team chokes in the big games.

2017 speaks for itself.
2018 - Allowed Rams to stay in the game and let the Refs get involved.
2019 and 2020, I don't know which effort was worse. Both times they came out looking uninspired, at home, against teams that they should have beat.

2018 - Eagles nearly beat us
2020 - Bears nearly beat us.

I don't know what Saints-Bears game you were watching in 2020, but the one I watched the Bears were never at any point nearly beating us!

ChrisXVI 01-22-2021 06:34 PM

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Last four lol... this crap goes back to the 2010 season.

dizzle88 01-22-2021 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 913083)
I don't know what Saints-Bears game you were watching in 2020, but the one I watched the Bears were never at any point nearly beating us!

You mean you didn't see they were a dropped TD away from being in the lead?

st thomas 01-22-2021 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 913080)
Blame SP!


When will the Whole Foods meat guy make him accountable?


Lol


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Rugby Saint II 01-23-2021 04:39 PM

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Please don't remind me. I'm still sick to my stomach....

dizzle88 01-23-2021 04:58 PM

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"Inserts that pallbearer joke about us always being let down by the team"

SaintGnome 01-23-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 913086)
You mean you didn't see they were a dropped TD away from being in the lead?

We dropped passes as well. Woulda, coulda...you know the rest

Cruize 01-24-2021 04:01 AM

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The refs literally stole a Super Bowl from the Saints. The Vikings beat the Saints last year. The Saints gifted the Bucs. The Saints staff and Williams gifted the Vikings.

TheOak 01-24-2021 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 913072)
Very true, however we are the only team in the Superbowl era to win 49 games over 4 years and not make a Superbowl appearance.

Attained a recent subscription to obscure statistics? There is a very good chance they are the only team to win a SuperBowl with more than 50% of the team having consumed a link of boudin in the same calendar year.

Being said doesn't mean it is relevant.

You guys are stewing and looking for a whipping post. The only thing in front of you happens to be 100% of the reason we have enjoyed a winning team i the last 14 years. Like rich kids with first world problems.

st thomas 01-24-2021 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 913141)
Attained a recent subscription to obscure statistics? There is a very good chance they are the only team to win a SuperBowl with more than 50% of the team having consumed a link of boudin in the same calendar year.

Being said doesn't mean it is relevant.

You guys are stewing and looking for a whipping post. The only thing in front of you happens to be 100% of the reason we have enjoyed a winning team i the last 14 years. Like rich kids with first world problems.


Mr. Oak if that’s what’s satisfies you that’s great, some of us would Ike a championship game every so often. And and to throw everything in the pot to win one.


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vpheughan 01-24-2021 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 913086)
You mean you didn't see they were a dropped TD away from being in the lead?

The same way the Saints were a stripped catch away from a two score lead against Tampa?

Vrillon82 01-24-2021 07:54 PM

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each 4 playoff exits the offense struggled along with the defense at some point.

2017 (Allowed Vikings to score more than they ever should on Offense, proceeded to not doing anything on offense the following week vs Philly)

2018 (Allowed Rams score 26 pts while only putting up 23, Regular season they scored 40+ on same team, following game being the SB the Rams only mustered 3 pts)

2019 (Allowed Vikings to over achieve in a game) Plain and simple. Only scored 10 pts the next week vs 49ers.

2020 (Only score 20 pts after scoring 35+ in previous 2 games and then allowed them to score 30 and turn ball over 4 times), next week was far different this time around, but we know KC is going to beat TB.

vpheughan 01-25-2021 06:56 AM

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Having Survive Covid put this silly game in a new light for me.

Enjoy wallowing in "YOUR" misery, don't for get to rub a little extra salt in all those wounds!!! Let it burn every second make your "off season" a pit of despair.

You think any one of those players you fawn over ever worry "Gee, VP had Covid and we lost a playoff game" my off season" is going to be HELL!!!

NOLA54 01-25-2021 11:37 AM

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This team and their post seson losses are exhausting. There isn't any logic as to why they go flat in the playoffs. The failures of the last four years makes me wonder if we will ever see another Super Bowl appearance under Payton.

K Major 01-25-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 913357)
This team and their post seson losses are exhausting. There isn't any logic as to why they go flat in the playoffs. The failures of the last four years makes me wonder if we will ever see another Super Bowl appearance under Payton.

I think Chris mentioned it yesterday ..

Chokers perhaps?

gosaints1 01-25-2021 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 913357)
This team and their post seson losses are exhausting. There isn't any logic as to why they go flat in the playoffs. The failures of the last four years makes me wonder if we will ever see another Super Bowl appearance under Payton.

That’s one way to look at things..., another way to look at things is bouncing off the idea that DB#9 starting has actually been more of a negative than a positive. If you believe in that philosophy, then look at the success (not championship level obviously) the Saints have had, in spite of a weakened, oft injured, Drew Brees.

Putting a healthy QB in, that can run the entire playbook, might be all it takes to challenge at the next level, for a long period of time.

73Saint 01-25-2021 12:12 PM

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I'm ready to see a SP led Saints team in a post Brees era. It's time.

Vrillon82 01-25-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 913360)
That’s one way to look at things..., another way to look at things is bouncing off the idea that DB#9 starting has actually been more of a negative than a positive. If you believe in that philosophy, then look at the success (not championship level obviously) the Saints have had, in spite of a weakened, oft injured, Drew Brees.

Putting a healthy QB in, that can run the entire playbook, might be all it takes to challenge at the next level, for a long period of time.

When you see how teams beat you the same way every post season, I say it has been a negative.

Whats happened is is at one point Brees carried the Saints, but theirs been no team successfully carry Brees because the problem is the QB position outweighs all. Few times in NFL history has a team over come a bad QB in order to win a SB. Not to say Brees is a bad QB, but hes been less than stellar the last 3 years.


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