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4everSaint 01-24-2021 01:29 AM

Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
https://www.nfl.com/news/matthew-sta...requests-trade

Sign me up. I would love it.

He can’t wear #9 though.

TheOak 01-24-2021 05:16 AM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 913138)
https://www.nfl.com/news/matthew-sta...requests-trade

Sign me up. I would love it.

He can’t wear #9 though.

We cant touch Stafford.

cmike 01-24-2021 06:51 AM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Do it.

BakoSaint 01-24-2021 10:31 AM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
I am not sure we can afford him. Time to fill out that FAFSA and see if we qualify for a Stafford Loan?

iceshack149 01-24-2021 11:45 AM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
The Lions are the Saints of old. I empathize with the fans of that organization. Barry Sanders left in his prime. Calvin Johnson still had a few good years in him before he retired. Now Mathew Stafford. Three of the best at their respective positions for the Lions wanting out because the organization is crap.

I hope that the Saints go with a younger QB if they pick from another team.

Rugby Saint II 01-24-2021 12:57 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Stafford wants out of Detroit. Shocker!!!:awe:

K Major 01-29-2021 09:18 AM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Interesting stat I heard J Williams/Keyshawn Johnson just talking about the other day ...

1st 77 starts for both Winston & Stafford :

Jameis 88 INTS
Stafford 85 INTS

Honestly I wasn't aware Highland Park threw so many picks early on in his career for Detroit.

rezburna 01-29-2021 11:05 AM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913626)
Interesting stat I heard J Williams/Keyshawn Johnson just talking about the other day ...

1st 77 starts for both Winston & Stafford :

Jameis 88 INTS
Stafford 85 INTS

Honestly I wasn't aware Highland Park threw so many picks early on in his career for Detroit.

Narratives are powerful.

blackangold 01-29-2021 12:36 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Would rather have Winston play... I don't care for all of the speculation on who the next QB is. It's either Hill or Winston, I lean Hill only because he is under contract.

If the Saints manage the cap situation, which Loomis has proven he can work magic, then this team can win games. It may be possible to improve year over year... We need to retain our locker-room defensive players.

NOLA54 01-29-2021 03:52 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
A while back I felt Stafford was wasting his talent in Detroit. He never really had the players around him offensively and defensively. He is 32 and he wants at least a shot at the super bowl . With the Saints he would get that shot and perhaps a super bowl . It would be a good fit for both parties.

K Major 01-29-2021 04:33 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Report: Rams exploring possible Stafford trade

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/21...stafford-trade

shawnkytonk 01-29-2021 04:55 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913640)
Report: Rams exploring possible Stafford trade

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/21...stafford-trade

I just got this alert on my phone. It's kind of a head scratcher considering the money being paid to Goff. I don't think Goff is a top 10 QB, but Stafford isn't that much of an upgrade. The Rams problem is McVay just isn't that good of a coach.

K Major 01-29-2021 05:02 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 913643)
I just got this alert on my phone. It's kind of a head scratcher considering the money being paid to Goff. I don't think Goff is a top 10 QB, but Stafford isn't that much of an upgrade. The Rams problem is McVay just isn't that good of a coach.

It appears Sean McV and someone inside the Rams organization may have lost a lot of confidence in Goff.

He never really impressed me coming out of Cal to be drafted so high. I don't know what the numbers are but the cap hit could be huge for the Lambs if he is released.

SaintGnome 01-29-2021 06:38 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
IMO while still young(er) Stafford and Matt Ryan are broken (no thanks, even if we could afford either)

RailBoss 01-29-2021 09:37 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Sun is setting on Ryan, Stafford has talent and could be a good possibility for us.

ChrisXVI 01-30-2021 01:10 PM

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Boston Saint 01-30-2021 01:51 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913626)
Interesting stat I heard J Williams/Keyshawn Johnson just talking about the other day ...

1st 77 starts for both Winston & Stafford :

Jameis 88 INTS
Stafford 85 INTS

Honestly I wasn't aware Highland Park threw so many picks early on in his career for Detroit.

I made a similar observation a while back in comparing Winston With Favre. Everyone freaked out about Winston’s 30 int season, When he also threw 33 TDs. Yet Favre had a season of 29 INTs wile only throwing 20 TDs and people hardly said a thing.

lee909 01-30-2021 09:04 PM

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Stafford just been traded

2 firsts(2022 and 23)
A 3rd
And Jared Goff

That's a great deal for a rebuild in Detroit

lee909 01-30-2021 09:05 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...006655490?s=19

K Major 01-30-2021 09:16 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
2 first rounders ? And a 3rd for a 33 year old QB?

Rams are drunk.

Imagine how much a team will have to give up in order to get Watson.

Rsanders24 01-30-2021 09:17 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Man....the Rams...smh....great deal for the Lions. This could doom the Rams

The Dude 01-30-2021 09:23 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Damn he went to the Rams for Goff, 3rd rounder this year and the next TWO years firsts.

The Dude 01-30-2021 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 913685)
Man....the Rams...smh....great deal for the Lions. This could doom the Rams

Yea they went all in but they are a Qb away from being a real contender. They were knocking on the door every year with Goff and he doesn’t offer much. They are going to need that first in 2023 though.

lee909 01-30-2021 09:53 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Isn't it
How are the Rams going to get Stafford any top tier talent with no 1st rounders till 2024

lee909 01-30-2021 10:05 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Last year wasn't good for Goff but the Rams just arn't that great, he is more than serviceable as a QB, at least for now. Stafford is good but not that much better for that cost. Especially as Stafford going to be knocking on the door in 2022 wanting a new deal and giving up that much for him he is going to have them over a barrell for salary demands.

neugey 01-30-2021 10:08 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Wow what a high price. If Goff has anything resembling a rebound the Lions got a heck of a deal.

rezburna 01-30-2021 10:25 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 913688)
Isn't it
How are the Rams going to get Stafford any top tier talent with no 1st rounders till 2024

I feel like the Rams have a lot of talent. Their WR corps is great and Cam Akers is a monster who I was hoping we would steal in the later rounds because I knew he would be slept on. He tore it up in Mississippi as a high school QB. Then of course, Donald and Ramsey on defense. They gave up a lot, but LA is a desirable free agency destination.

RailBoss 01-30-2021 11:34 PM

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So Dan Campbell plans to resurrect the Lions with Jared Goff....
Alrighty Then..

shawnkytonk 01-30-2021 11:38 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
The Rams aren't going anywhere with this deal.

BakoSaint 01-30-2021 11:47 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Sean McVay is the worst playcaller in the NFL. Basically a young Carl Smith. He will wreck Stafford who will get hurt holding onto the ball with no receivers open. Detroit will get two #1 overall picks out of this.

ChrisXVI 01-31-2021 11:55 AM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Well that’s one team picking ahead of us who won’t need a QB now.

saintsfan1976 01-31-2021 12:08 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913684)
2 first rounders ? And a 3rd for a 33 year old QB?

Rams are drunk.

Imagine how much a team will have to give up in order to get Watson.

Jameis & Taysom. Here we go!

lee909 01-31-2021 12:13 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
I don't see Winston here
Someone will offer him a deal that we can't compete with, the only hope would be him agreeing a one year deal and cashing in next year with my game time

ChrisXVI 01-31-2021 12:15 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 

I think it’s going to be too hard to keep Jameis. These other teams are probably excited to give Jameis a chance now that he’s new and improved with a year in Payton’s QB camp. Too much money.

I think we’ll role with Taysom, Trevor Siemian and another QB we bring in from the draft.

dizzle88 01-31-2021 12:31 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 913710)
https://twitter.com/massey_evan/stat...45547873886208

I think it’s going to be too hard to keep Jameis. These other teams are probably excited to give Jameis a chance now that he’s new and improved with a year in Payton’s QB camp. Too much money.

I think we’ll role with Taysom, Trevor Siemian and another QB we bring in from the draft.

Which I don't think is such a bad thing, we could be bad for a year or 2, or we could surprise people if other areas step up. But doing that, we get a proper look at if Taysom can improve (I personally think he's hit his ceiling at QB) but then we can have a young QB ready to take over.

Mac Jones has had a few interviews with Saints and throws the ball with nice touch and accuracy.

Boston Saint 01-31-2021 01:07 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
If other teams are interested in Winston, it leads me more to believe that either a QB Payton likes will slip down to pick 28 or a veteran with upside will be willing to take a friendly contract.

K Major 01-31-2021 02:11 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 913708)
Jameis & Taysom. Here we go!

Honestly, I really hope we take another shot at the draft for a QB in 2021. ATM Saints have a 1st, 2nd and a 4th. I don't know the details of the Fontenot/comp picks but I assume that will be a 3rd rounder ?

Jameis could sign elsewhere, leaving TH and nothing behind him.

saintsfan1976 01-31-2021 03:57 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913684)
2 first rounders ? And a 3rd for a 33 year old QB?

Rams are drunk.

Imagine how much a team will have to give up in order to get Watson.

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913715)
Honestly, I really hope we take another shot at the draft for a QB in 2021. ATM Saints have a 1st, 2nd and a 4th. I don't know the details of the Fontenot/comp picks but I assume that will be a 3rd rounder ?

Jameis could sign elsewhere, leaving TH and nothing behind him.

If we lose Winston to FA, I hope we sign Fitzpatrick and trade for who we want

lee909 01-31-2021 04:41 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913715)
Honestly, I really hope we take another shot at the draft for a QB in 2021. ATM Saints have a 1st, 2nd and a 4th. I don't know the details of the Fontenot/comp picks but I assume that will be a 3rd rounder ?

Jameis could sign elsewhere, leaving TH and nothing behind him.


Saints expected to get 2 3rd round comp picks.
For for Bridgewater a d one for Fontenot

ChrisXVI 01-31-2021 04:50 PM

Re: Stafford wants out of Detroit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913715)
Honestly, I really hope we take another shot at the draft for a QB in 2021. ATM Saints have a 1st, 2nd and a 4th. I don't know the details of the Fontenot/comp picks but I assume that will be a 3rd rounder ?

Jameis could sign elsewhere, leaving TH and nothing behind him.

I typically don’t get too into who we should target in the draft until after free agency because so much can change. However, since there’s uncertainty around retaining Jameis, I’m leaning towards going full steam ahead with QB in the first round. With our financial situation having a QB on a rookie contract w/ 5th year option would be huge.


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