Compensatory Picks Question

Rugby Saint II · 01-24-2021, 02:53 PM

We should be receiving compensatory picks for players lost last season. Right? We also should receive picks for lost coaches. Right? Can somebody break down the scenarios for comp picks?

jeanpierre · 01-24-2021, 03:17 PM

From NFL.com

An increasing number of NFL teams are crafting their free agency strategy around their ability to create compensatory picks by shrewdly sifting through departures and acquisitions. Adding draft capital allows teams additional chances to find a diamond in the rough. Consider as one example Darius Slayton, selected by the New York Giants with a fifth-round compensatory pick in 2019; Slayton went on to finish fifth amongst rookies in receiving yards and tied for first with eight touchdowns.

So, how do compensatory picks work?

Teams are awarded compensatory draft picks between Rounds 3 and 7 based upon a league formula that takes into account the following criteria for players who left the team to sign elsewhere as free agents: average salary per year (APY), snap count and postseason awards. While there is an expected level of compensation for a player based on the amount he has signed for, his playing time (or lack thereof) in the upcoming season could alter the expectation. To qualify for compensatory picks, teams must end up with more qualifying free agents lost than gained in a particular year.

The number of compensatory picks allotted each year is limited to the number of teams in the league (32), per the collective bargaining agreement. However, compensatory picks are not divided up equally among the teams, and no team can receive more than four compensatory picks in a single year.

There were alterations to the methodology of determining compensatory value/picks with this year's collective bargaining agreement. It's likely that we will see most, if not all, of the compensatory picks land between Rounds 3 and 6 because of these changes.

The compensatory picks for the 2021 NFL Draft won't be determined by the NFL Management Council's formula until after the 2020 season is over, but in this post I'll attempt to project which teams will be receiving compensatory picks next year and the round in which those picks could fall.

Keep in mind: Players need to have been signed as unrestricted free agents before April 27 and rank high enough among their peers to qualify for the compensatory-pick formula. They also cannot have been released by their previous team. Only those notable players who are projected to be eligible for the compensatory-pick formula are included among the key additions and losses listed below...

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

Projected compensatory picks: One apiece in Rounds 3 and 6.
Key free-agent losses:Teddy Bridgewater (Panthers), Vonn Bell (Bengals), A.J. Klein (Bills).
Key free-agent addition:Emmanuel Sanders (49ers).
Comp-pick analysis: The Saints played this entire thing like a Jackson-square jam. Bridgewater was signed for just one season at $7.25 million to be Drew Brees' backup in 2019, and he ended up starting five games and winning all five starts. He played himself into a nice contract with the Panthers and earned the Saints a third-round pick. The addition of Sanders will cancel out the loss of Bell, but the loss of Klein should bring in a sixth-rounder.

Source: 2021 NFL Draft: Compensatory pick projections for every team | Lance Zierlein

ChrisXVI · 01-24-2021, 03:18 PM

As far as I’m aware, it should be this:

3rd rounder for Teddy Bridgewater
3rd rounder for hire of Terry Fontenot
6th rounder for AJ Klein

I believe the Emmanuel Sanders signing cancels out a potential comp pick for Vonn Bell.

jeanpierre · 01-24-2021, 04:00 PM

Projecting The 2021 Compensatory Picks | Over The Cap

Rugby Saint II · 01-25-2021, 03:58 PM

Thanks for clearing that up fellas.

SmashMouth · 01-25-2021, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

As far as I’m aware, it should be this:

3rd rounder for Teddy Bridgewater
3rd rounder for hire of Terry Fontenot
6th rounder for AJ Klein

I believe the Emmanuel Sanders signing cancels out a potential comp pick for Vonn Bell.

Aren't we getting another from another minority front office departure?

FinSaint · 01-26-2021, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Aren't we getting another from another minority front office departure?

Glenn ?

The compensatory picks for losing minority staff only applies if they are hired as the GM or the HC.

Rsanders24 · 01-26-2021, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Aren't we getting another from another minority front office departure?

Yes. We should receive two picks for Fontenot going to the Falcons. One this year and one in 2022.

Rugby Saint II · 01-26-2021, 04:58 PM

This year we will probably have some hard cuts or trades to get down to the cap. I would think we will lose more players than we bring in. More comp picks? It's time to retool with our draft picks and I want Ireland to have a full arsenal to begin working with.

lee909 · 01-26-2021, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

This year we will probably have some hard cuts or trades to get down to the cap. I would think we will lose more players than we bring in. More comp picks? It's time to retool with our draft picks and I want Ireland to have a full arsenal to begin working with.

How many will generate a decent comp pick though

Williams,Hendrickson if they go

Rankins,Cook might get a much later pick

01-24-2021, 02:53 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Compensatory Picks Question We should be receiving compensatory picks for players lost last season. Right? We also should receive picks for lost coaches. Right? Can somebody break down the scenarios for comp picks?

01-24-2021, 03:17 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Compensatory Picks Question From NFL.com An increasing number of NFL teams are crafting their free agency strategy around their ability to create compensatory picks by shrewdly sifting through departures and acquisitions. Adding draft capital allows teams additional chances to find a diamond in the rough. Consider as one example Darius Slayton, selected by the New York Giants with a fifth-round compensatory pick in 2019; Slayton went on to finish fifth amongst rookies in receiving yards and tied for first with eight touchdowns. So, how do compensatory picks work? Teams are awarded compensatory draft picks between Rounds 3 and 7 based upon a league formula that takes into account the following criteria for players who left the team to sign elsewhere as free agents: average salary per year (APY), snap count and postseason awards. While there is an expected level of compensation for a player based on the amount he has signed for, his playing time (or lack thereof) in the upcoming season could alter the expectation. To qualify for compensatory picks, teams must end up with more qualifying free agents lost than gained in a particular year. The number of compensatory picks allotted each year is limited to the number of teams in the league (32), per the collective bargaining agreement. However, compensatory picks are not divided up equally among the teams, and no team can receive more than four compensatory picks in a single year. There were alterations to the methodology of determining compensatory value/picks with this year's collective bargaining agreement. It's likely that we will see most, if not all, of the compensatory picks land between Rounds 3 and 6 because of these changes. The compensatory picks for the 2021 NFL Draft won't be determined by the NFL Management Council's formula until after the 2020 season is over, but in this post I'll attempt to project which teams will be receiving compensatory picks next year and the round in which those picks could fall. Keep in mind: Players need to have been signed as unrestricted free agents before April 27 and rank high enough among their peers to qualify for the compensatory-pick formula. They also cannot have been released by their previous team. Only those notable players who are projected to be eligible for the compensatory-pick formula are included among the key additions and losses listed below... NEW ORLEANS SAINTS Projected compensatory picks: One apiece in Rounds 3 and 6. Key free-agent losses:Teddy Bridgewater (Panthers), Vonn Bell (Bengals), A.J. Klein (Bills). Key free-agent addition:Emmanuel Sanders (49ers). Comp-pick analysis: The Saints played this entire thing like a Jackson-square jam. Bridgewater was signed for just one season at $7.25 million to be Drew Brees' backup in 2019, and he ended up starting five games and winning all five starts. He played himself into a nice contract with the Panthers and earned the Saints a third-round pick. The addition of Sanders will cancel out the loss of Bell, but the loss of Klein should bring in a sixth-rounder. Source: 2021 NFL Draft: Compensatory pick projections for every team \| Lance Zierlein SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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01-24-2021, 03:18 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Compensatory Picks Question As far as I’m aware, it should be this: 3rd rounder for Teddy Bridgewater 3rd rounder for hire of Terry Fontenot 6th rounder for AJ Klein I believe the Emmanuel Sanders signing cancels out a potential comp pick for Vonn Bell. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Compensatory Picks Question Originally Posted by ChrisXVI As far as I’m aware, it should be this: 3rd rounder for Teddy Bridgewater 3rd rounder for hire of Terry Fontenot 6th rounder for AJ Klein I believe the Emmanuel Sanders signing cancels out a potential comp pick for Vonn Bell. Aren't we getting another from another minority front office departure?

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Compensatory Picks Question Originally Posted by SmashMouth Aren't we getting another from another minority front office departure? Glenn ? The compensatory picks for losing minority staff only applies if they are hired as the GM or the HC. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Compensatory Picks Question Originally Posted by SmashMouth Aren't we getting another from another minority front office departure? Yes. We should receive two picks for Fontenot going to the Falcons. One this year and one in 2022.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Compensatory Picks Question This year we will probably have some hard cuts or trades to get down to the cap. I would think we will lose more players than we bring in. More comp picks? It's time to retool with our draft picks and I want Ireland to have a full arsenal to begin working with.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Compensatory Picks Question Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II This year we will probably have some hard cuts or trades to get down to the cap. I would think we will lose more players than we bring in. More comp picks? It's time to retool with our draft picks and I want Ireland to have a full arsenal to begin working with. How many will generate a decent comp pick though Williams,Hendrickson if they go Rankins,Cook might get a much later pick