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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly what was I wrong about? Using twenty years as a basis of research? Fine. That didn't meet your parameters. Pointing out that Payton has no greater aversion to drafting LSU players than anyone else in ...

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Old 07-22-2021, 10:06 AM   #1
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Exactly what was I wrong about? Using twenty years as a basis of research? Fine. That didn't meet your parameters. Pointing out that Payton has no greater aversion to drafting LSU players than anyone else in the NFL? I am not wrong on that. That is your limited perception. That does not make it true. The fact is that when you compare the limited number of LSU players drafted over the past 15 years half the teams in the league mostly likely drafted no more than one if any other teams drafted more than three over that stretch.

It all comes down to this ... you claim Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. I've been saying you have no proof to there being any actual aversion. The only way I can be wrong is if you can prove that Payton indeed has that aversion.
You used an argument of 20 years when Payton has been here since 2006, that's fifteen years...

You need to admit that - You. were. wrong.
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You used an argument of 20 years when Payton has been here since 2006, that's fifteen years...

You need to admit that - You. were. wrong.
That wasn't even the crux of the entire discussion. I used 20 years simply because the numbers were easily at hand, still demonstrated the very low number of LSU players drafted per franchise and including the 15 years with Payton as head coach was right on the league average percentage of LSU players drafted. Was I wrong about using those parameters? Trivial as it is, I guess you can make that argument.

The true discussion was based upon your claiming that Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. Where is the proof of that? Simply your saying it is so doesn't make it true. I simply pointed out that fact and you began questioning my objectivity because I cannot come up with any reason to complain about Sean Payton. Does that make me wrong somehow?

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Old 07-22-2021, 10:31 AM   #3
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That wasn't even the crux of the entire discussion. I used 20 years simply because the numbers were easily at hand, still demonstrated the very low number of LSU players drafted per franchise and including the 15 years with Payton as head coach was right on the league average percentage of LSU players drafted. Was I wrong about using those parameters? Trivial as it is, I guess you can make that argument.

The true discussion was based upon your claiming that Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. Where is the proof of that? Simply your saying it is so doesn't make it true. I simply pointed out that fact and you began questioning my objectivity because I cannot come up with any reason to complain about Sean Payton. Does that make me wrong somehow?
You made a humiliating mistake trying to cite non-applicable data...

You. were. wrong.
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You guys go round and round pickering about trivial things like little children causing all sorts of negativity on these boards.

I'm tempted to block the both of you, but you both acutually post something meaningful and unrelated to your personal feud every now and then, so I'd like to avoid doing that.

While I don't agree with AG on a lot of things - I have admit he has a point here that you JP have claimed numerous times on multiple threads that SP avoids drafting players from LSU while the statistics clearly do not support that claim (15 or 20 year span), so you could just admit your bias and the both of you could move on from this subject.

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Originally Posted by FinSaint View Post
You guys go round and round pickering about trivial things like little children causing all sorts of negativity on these boards.

I'm tempted to block the both of you, but you both acutually post something meaningful and unrelated to your personal feud every now and then, so I'd like to avoid doing that.

While I don't agree with AG on a lot of things - I have admit he has a point here that you JP have claimed numerous times on multiple threads that SP avoids drafting players from LSU while the statistics clearly do not support that claim (15 or 20 year span), so you could just admit your bias and the both of you could move on from this subject.
And on JP"s behalf, I believe this is the first time he has been like this to anyone on this thread. AG not so much, he get's like this a whole lot. Let it play out. I believe it's more to it than LSU players Fin.
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You guys go round and round pickering about trivial things like little children causing all sorts of negativity on these boards.

I'm tempted to block the both of you, but you both acutually post something meaningful and unrelated to your personal feud every now and then, so I'd like to avoid doing that.

While I don't agree with AG on a lot of things - I have admit he has a point here that you JP have claimed numerous times on multiple threads that SP avoids drafting players from LSU while the statistics clearly do not support that claim (15 or 20 year span), so you could just admit your bias and the both of you could move on from this subject.
Do what you must, #Block away!
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Do what you must, #Block away!
You two could do us all a favor and continue your quarrel through direct messages, and you can hashtag that as well.
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You two could do us all a favor and continue your quarrel through direct messages, and you can hashtag that as well.
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Old 07-24-2021, 12:42 AM   #10
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You two could do us all a favor and continue your quarrel through direct messages, and you can hashtag that as well.
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