2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

AsylumGuido · 07-20-2021, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Six of your seven points you argued twenty year numbers when Sean Payton has only been here since 2006...

You. Are. Wrong.

Give it up, JP. I don't want to argue with you anymore. Your premise that Sean Payton has an aversion to LSU players is clearly unable to be substantiated due to the rest of the league's draft rates concerning LSU. Your aversion to Sean Payton and the Saints front office is far more apparent.

My feeling goes out to you if you or yours have been personally wronged by any of them.

jeanpierre · 07-21-2021, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Give it up, JP. I don't want to argue with you anymore. Your premise that Sean Payton has an aversion to LSU players is clearly unable to be substantiated due to the rest of the league's draft rates concerning LSU. Your aversion to Sean Payton and the Saints front office is far more apparent.

My feeling goes out to you if you or yours have been personally wronged by any of them.

You're trying to create a mythic situation to deflect from admitting you made a seven point argument with six of those points based on Sean Payton being here 20 years...

You. were. wrong.

And you refuse to admit you were wrong, and that's pathological...

jeanpierre · 07-21-2021, 09:53 AM

AsylumGuido · 07-21-2021, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

You're trying to create a mythic situation to deflect from admitting you made a seven point argument with six of those points based on Sean Payton being here 20 years...

You. were. wrong.

And you refuse to admit you were wrong, and that's pathological...

There's no convincing you of anything, no matter how logical. Your "aversion" to Sean Payton is just too great to overcome.

Does it stem back from the cutting of ties with Rita and her gang? I remember you had some harsh words about Gayle over that affair. We all know how tight Payton and Loomis are with Gayle. They are like sons to her as one of them described. Or has it even preceded that?

Rugby Saint II · 07-21-2021, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There's no convincing you of anything, no matter how logical. Your "aversion" to Sean Payton is just too great to overcome.

Does it stem back from the cutting of ties with Rita and her gang? I remember you had some harsh words about Gayle over that affair. We all know how tight Payton and Loomis are with Gayle. They are like sons to her as one of them described. Or has it even preceded that?

This is getting old. Neither one of you is going to convince the other of anything no matter how much you try. Do you really need to put all of us through a running argument? Be the bigger man and let it go. You both could be right but no matter the research neither is changing their mind. Please stop getting me excited about a new thread without being drug into one of your never ending "I'll prove him wrong" tirades. Peace out.

jeanpierre · 07-21-2021, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There's no convincing you of anything, no matter how logical. Your "aversion" to Sean Payton is just too great to overcome.

Does it stem back from the cutting of ties with Rita and her gang? I remember you had some harsh words about Gayle over that affair. We all know how tight Payton and Loomis are with Gayle. They are like sons to her as one of them described. Or has it even preceded that?

You've convinced me you are wrong and you pathologically won't admit you're wrong...

jeanpierre · 07-21-2021, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

This is getting old. Neither one of you is going to convince the other of anything no matter how much you try. Do you really need to put all of us through a running argument? Be the bigger man and let it go. You both could be right but no matter the research neither is changing their mind. Please stop getting me excited about a new thread without being drug into one of your never ending "I'll prove him wrong" tirades. Peace out.

Just ignore it. But I'm gonna continue to drag him (if he doesn't do it to himself) that he's wrong and he should act like an adult and admit he was wrong like the human beings on this thread...

He made an flawed argument; it was pointed out he was wrong; he needs to act like an adult and admit he's wrong and why he's wrong...

He's got a pathological problem of not admitting he's wrong; when he corrects his behaviour, I'll let it go then...

Sorry, not sorry y'all have to go through this...

jeanpierre · 07-22-2021, 08:06 AM

AsylumGuido · 07-22-2021, 10:54 AM

Exactly what was I wrong about? Using twenty years as a basis of research? Fine. That didn't meet your parameters. Pointing out that Payton has no greater aversion to drafting LSU players than anyone else in the NFL? I am not wrong on that. That is your limited perception. That does not make it true. The fact is that when you compare the limited number of LSU players drafted over the past 15 years half the teams in the league mostly likely drafted no more than one if any other teams drafted more than three over that stretch.

It all comes down to this ... you claim Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. I've been saying you have no proof to there being any actual aversion. The only way I can be wrong is if you can prove that Payton indeed has that aversion.

jeanpierre · 07-22-2021, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Exactly what was I wrong about? Using twenty years as a basis of research? Fine. That didn't meet your parameters. Pointing out that Payton has no greater aversion to drafting LSU players than anyone else in the NFL? I am not wrong on that. That is your limited perception. That does not make it true. The fact is that when you compare the limited number of LSU players drafted over the past 15 years half the teams in the league mostly likely drafted no more than one if any other teams drafted more than three over that stretch.

It all comes down to this ... you claim Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. I've been saying you have no proof to there being any actual aversion. The only way I can be wrong is if you can prove that Payton indeed has that aversion.

You used an argument of 20 years when Payton has been here since 2006, that's fifteen years...

You need to admit that - You. were. wrong.

07-20-2021, 06:30 PM	#1091
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Six of your seven points you argued twenty year numbers when Sean Payton has only been here since 2006... You. Are. Wrong. Give it up, JP. I don't want to argue with you anymore. Your premise that Sean Payton has an aversion to LSU players is clearly unable to be substantiated due to the rest of the league's draft rates concerning LSU. Your aversion to Sean Payton and the Saints front office is far more apparent. My feeling goes out to you if you or yours have been personally wronged by any of them.

07-21-2021, 09:19 AM	#1092
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Give it up, JP. I don't want to argue with you anymore. Your premise that Sean Payton has an aversion to LSU players is clearly unable to be substantiated due to the rest of the league's draft rates concerning LSU. Your aversion to Sean Payton and the Saints front office is far more apparent. My feeling goes out to you if you or yours have been personally wronged by any of them. You're trying to create a mythic situation to deflect from admitting you made a seven point argument with six of those points based on Sean Payton being here 20 years... You. were. wrong. And you refuse to admit you were wrong, and that's pathological...

07-21-2021, 09:53 AM	#1093
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07-21-2021, 10:13 AM	#1094
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre You're trying to create a mythic situation to deflect from admitting you made a seven point argument with six of those points based on Sean Payton being here 20 years... You. were. wrong. And you refuse to admit you were wrong, and that's pathological... There's no convincing you of anything, no matter how logical. Your "aversion" to Sean Payton is just too great to overcome. Does it stem back from the cutting of ties with Rita and her gang? I remember you had some harsh words about Gayle over that affair. We all know how tight Payton and Loomis are with Gayle. They are like sons to her as one of them described. Or has it even preceded that?

07-21-2021, 12:07 PM	#1095
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There's no convincing you of anything, no matter how logical. Your "aversion" to Sean Payton is just too great to overcome. Does it stem back from the cutting of ties with Rita and her gang? I remember you had some harsh words about Gayle over that affair. We all know how tight Payton and Loomis are with Gayle. They are like sons to her as one of them described. Or has it even preceded that? This is getting old. Neither one of you is going to convince the other of anything no matter how much you try. Do you really need to put all of us through a running argument? Be the bigger man and let it go. You both could be right but no matter the research neither is changing their mind. Please stop getting me excited about a new thread without being drug into one of your never ending "I'll prove him wrong" tirades. Peace out. FinSaint and shawnkytonk like this.

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07-21-2021, 09:52 PM	#1096
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There's no convincing you of anything, no matter how logical. Your "aversion" to Sean Payton is just too great to overcome. Does it stem back from the cutting of ties with Rita and her gang? I remember you had some harsh words about Gayle over that affair. We all know how tight Payton and Loomis are with Gayle. They are like sons to her as one of them described. Or has it even preceded that? You've convinced me you are wrong and you pathologically won't admit you're wrong...

07-21-2021, 09:55 PM	#1097
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II This is getting old. Neither one of you is going to convince the other of anything no matter how much you try. Do you really need to put all of us through a running argument? Be the bigger man and let it go. You both could be right but no matter the research neither is changing their mind. Please stop getting me excited about a new thread without being drug into one of your never ending "I'll prove him wrong" tirades. Peace out. Just ignore it. But I'm gonna continue to drag him (if he doesn't do it to himself) that he's wrong and he should act like an adult and admit he was wrong like the human beings on this thread... He made an flawed argument; it was pointed out he was wrong; he needs to act like an adult and admit he's wrong and why he's wrong... He's got a pathological problem of not admitting he's wrong; when he corrects his behaviour, I'll let it go then... Sorry, not sorry y'all have to go through this...
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07-22-2021, 08:06 AM	#1098
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07-22-2021, 10:54 AM	#1099
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Exactly what was I wrong about? Using twenty years as a basis of research? Fine. That didn't meet your parameters. Pointing out that Payton has no greater aversion to drafting LSU players than anyone else in the NFL? I am not wrong on that. That is your limited perception. That does not make it true. The fact is that when you compare the limited number of LSU players drafted over the past 15 years half the teams in the league mostly likely drafted no more than one if any other teams drafted more than three over that stretch. It all comes down to this ... you claim Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. I've been saying you have no proof to there being any actual aversion. The only way I can be wrong is if you can prove that Payton indeed has that aversion.
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07-22-2021, 11:06 AM	#1100
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly what was I wrong about? Using twenty years as a basis of research? Fine. That didn't meet your parameters. Pointing out that Payton has no greater aversion to drafting LSU players than anyone else in the NFL? I am not wrong on that. That is your limited perception. That does not make it true. The fact is that when you compare the limited number of LSU players drafted over the past 15 years half the teams in the league mostly likely drafted no more than one if any other teams drafted more than three over that stretch. It all comes down to this ... you claim Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. I've been saying you have no proof to there being any actual aversion. The only way I can be wrong is if you can prove that Payton indeed has that aversion. You used an argument of 20 years when Payton has been here since 2006, that's fifteen years... You need to admit that - You. were. wrong.