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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Love the way he catches the ball, high-points the ball, snaps the ball to his body, he's got great short area quickness to evade and pick up YAC; he does have suddenness... Quietly I chuckled with ...

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Old 04-14-2021, 02:21 PM   #471
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Love the way he catches the ball, high-points the ball, snaps the ball to his body, he's got great short area quickness to evade and pick up YAC; he does have suddenness...
Quietly I chuckled with anticipation.....
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Old 04-15-2021, 10:21 AM   #472
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Interesting nugget of information I noticed going through past drafts. The Saints have only drafted a QB as high as the second round ONLY ONCE in their entire history. That’s got to be some kind of record among NFL teams.
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Old 04-15-2021, 10:34 AM   #473
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Interesting nugget of information I noticed going through past drafts. The Saints have only drafted a QB as high as the second round ONLY ONCE in their entire history. That’s got to be some kind of record among NFL teams.
Comparing that to the numbers I posted in another thread that shows the improbability of getting a starting QB. Less than two of three QB's drafted in the first round start half of the games in their career. That percentage drops quickly in later rounds.

An extensive study done in 2015 on all drafts picks (non-kickers) between 2005 and 2014 showed that only 25.5% of all drafted players became starters for at least half of their careers. It also broke it down between rounds taken and position. The success rate (starting) of DL, RB, and WR picked in the first round is only 58%. QB's are only slightly better at 63%.

Here's a nice summary:

Historic Success Chart

The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters:

1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%)

2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%)

3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%)

4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%)

5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%)

6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%)

7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%)
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Old 04-15-2021, 11:48 AM   #474
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I think this is one guy we’re all pretty much in total agreement about wanting to draft. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if we traded up in the second round for him.
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...11432081338368

I think this is one guy we’re all pretty much in total agreement about wanting to draft. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if we traded up in the second round for him.
I'd like to see that happen on draft day for the Saints. We need to replenish our secondary. Give me a CB next and I'll be happy.
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Old 04-15-2021, 12:20 PM   #476
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...11432081338368

I think this is one guy we’re all pretty much in total agreement about wanting to draft. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if we traded up in the second round for him.
How about trade the round one pick and move back with two early/mid 2nd round pics?

How about trade 28 to Miami for 36 and 50. That gives the Saints picks 36, 50, and 60.
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Old 04-15-2021, 12:35 PM   #477
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How about trade the round one pick and move back with two early/mid 2nd round pics?

How about trade 28 to Miami for 36 and 50. That gives the Saints picks 36, 50, and 60.
Take a close look at that success chart I posted. The thing about trading back is your chances of drafting an eventual starter shrinks considerably by round as you move back. You can conceivably trade a first rounder back and its resulting picks back cumulatively and end up with a dozen 6th and 7th rounders and most likely have less of a chance that any those twelve players will end up being a starter than what you could have had using that first on a single player.
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It all starts two weeks from tonight.

4/29/21.

Can't wait.
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Old 04-15-2021, 12:54 PM   #479
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It all starts two weeks from tonight.

4/29/21.

Can't wait.
Maybe we won't have to wait until pick 28.
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Take a close look at that success chart I posted. The thing about trading back is your chances of drafting an eventual starter shrinks considerably by round as you move back. You can conceivably trade a first rounder back and its resulting picks back cumulatively and end up with a dozen 6th and 7th rounders and most likely have less of a chance that any those twelve players will end up being a starter than what you could have had using that first on a single player.
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