2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

ChrisXVI · 02-25-2021, 06:03 PM

As far as I know, Baun was potentially going to play Mike LB. I don’t know if that plan is still in place or not.

jeanpierre · 02-26-2021, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Once I saw him on the field in a Saints uniform, Baun is a 3-4 Jack...

Originally Posted by K Major

Damn.

Originally Posted by gosaints1

What good is a 3-4 (J) backer in a predominantly 4-3 defense though? Dennis Allen is on record as stating “I’m an 11 best players” guy wrt defensive scheme, which cause some uncertainty in what positions in defensive personnel, draft including, are prioritized. The last couple years, it seems the Saints have played more 4-2-5 than 3-4, right?

Have my eyes failed me? Am I wrong?

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

As far as I know, Baun was potentially going to play Mike LB. I don’t know if that plan is still in place or not.

Look, that's just me; I see him excelling in that (Jack) position...

Could he play Sam, Mike or Will? Sure. But I think you put this guy in as a Jack, he could devastate one side of the field, reach his full potential...

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Anzalone would probably make a better 3-4 LBer just to reduce some of his reads/assignments so he could just turn loose his athleticism...

In fact, after taking Anzalone, I thought we might be working our way back to a 3-4 with Cam slowing down, then we went and took Davenport with two ones and a fifth...

Now, if we were playing old pass defense rules, I'd love to see Baun used in a 46, that'd be real exciting to see...

But he just didn't seem as fluid in space as our LBers (e.g. Davis and Kwon) need to be in our nickel, heavy nickel, dime packages...

gosaints1 · 02-26-2021, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Look, that's just me; I see him excelling in that (Jack) position...

Could he play Sam, Mike or Will? Sure. But I think you put this guy in as a Jack, he could devastate one side of the field, reach his full potential...

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Anzalone would probably make a better 3-4 LBer just to reduce some of his reads/assignments so he could just turn loose his athleticism...

In fact, after taking Anzalone, I thought we might be working our way back to a 3-4 with Cam slowing down, then we went and took Davenport with two ones and a fifth...

Now, if we were playing old pass defense rules, I'd love to see Baun used in a 46, that'd be real exciting to see...

But he just didn't seem as fluid in space as our LBers (e.g. Davis and Kwon) need to be in our nickel, heavy nickel, dime packages...

Agreed, a playmaker is a playmaker is a playmaker. I understand that logic. Kinda like if the Saints were to sign a speedy veteran WR to get past the secondary quick, fast and in a hurry, yet have a QB that either is unable to deliver a deep ball or is more often than not extremely hesitant to even try. The WR would still be a baller..., but not in the situation he would presently be in.

Don’t we show 46 every now and then, but substituting an additional SS at the line, instead of a pure (J) LBer? It’s a 46 look though, right? lol, sometimes it worked, Jenkins had 2.5 sacks at that pos’n (effectively) last season. One more than either Rankins or Davenport. Sorry, couldn’t resist leaving you with Two 1sts on your mind on my way out.

02-25-2021, 06:03 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints As far as I know, Baun was potentially going to play Mike LB. I don’t know if that plan is still in place or not.

02-26-2021, 12:44 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Once I saw him on the field in a Saints uniform, Baun is a 3-4 Jack... Originally Posted by K Major Damn. Originally Posted by gosaints1 What good is a 3-4 (J) backer in a predominantly 4-3 defense though? Dennis Allen is on record as stating “I’m an 11 best players” guy wrt defensive scheme, which cause some uncertainty in what positions in defensive personnel, draft including, are prioritized. The last couple years, it seems the Saints have played more 4-2-5 than 3-4, right? Have my eyes failed me? Am I wrong? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI As far as I know, Baun was potentially going to play Mike LB. I don’t know if that plan is still in place or not. Look, that's just me; I see him excelling in that (Jack) position... Could he play Sam, Mike or Will? Sure. But I think you put this guy in as a Jack, he could devastate one side of the field, reach his full potential... In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Anzalone would probably make a better 3-4 LBer just to reduce some of his reads/assignments so he could just turn loose his athleticism... In fact, after taking Anzalone, I thought we might be working our way back to a 3-4 with Cam slowing down, then we went and took Davenport with two ones and a fifth... Now, if we were playing old pass defense rules, I'd love to see Baun used in a 46, that'd be real exciting to see... But he just didn't seem as fluid in space as our LBers (e.g. Davis and Kwon) need to be in our nickel, heavy nickel, dime packages... saintsfan1976, gosaints1 and K Major like this.
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02-26-2021, 07:27 AM	#3
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Look, that's just me; I see him excelling in that (Jack) position... Could he play Sam, Mike or Will? Sure. But I think you put this guy in as a Jack, he could devastate one side of the field, reach his full potential... In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Anzalone would probably make a better 3-4 LBer just to reduce some of his reads/assignments so he could just turn loose his athleticism... In fact, after taking Anzalone, I thought we might be working our way back to a 3-4 with Cam slowing down, then we went and took Davenport with two ones and a fifth... Now, if we were playing old pass defense rules, I'd love to see Baun used in a 46, that'd be real exciting to see... But he just didn't seem as fluid in space as our LBers (e.g. Davis and Kwon) need to be in our nickel, heavy nickel, dime packages... Agreed, a playmaker is a playmaker is a playmaker. I understand that logic. Kinda like if the Saints were to sign a speedy veteran WR to get past the secondary quick, fast and in a hurry, yet have a QB that either is unable to deliver a deep ball or is more often than not extremely hesitant to even try. The WR would still be a baller..., but not in the situation he would presently be in. Don’t we show 46 every now and then, but substituting an additional SS at the line, instead of a pure (J) LBer? It’s a 46 look though, right? lol, sometimes it worked, Jenkins had 2.5 sacks at that pos’n (effectively) last season. One more than either Rankins or Davenport. Sorry, couldn’t resist leaving you with Two 1sts on your mind on my way out. K Major likes this.
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