2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

ChrisXVI · 03-27-2021, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Okay, this was on Draft Network Mock with no trades...

Rounds One and Two couldn't have been better, securing immediate starters for CB2 and WLB (Demario to the Mike)...

Tylan Wallace nearly fell to me in round 3, taken five picks earlier; an immediately plug 'n play WRz...

But was thrilled to find Hunter Long just sitting there - a huge get; makes those TE-jumbo packages exciting...

Tyler Shelving is terrific value for a dominating NT1; massive, young, athletic NT for the next four years on a rookie contract...

Jaelan Darden would provide depth behind Deonte Harris; could see lining them up on opposite sides of the field for WR-Double-Bubble-Option packages - had to do it...

Josh Ball could be ready in a season at RT - perfect project for Zach Strief to mentor, unload Terron Armstead's contract, unavailability issues...

Tyler Coyle would be a steal at SS; makes Jenkins expendable by mid-season...

I could die a happy man JP! That draft would be incredible. You know I love Newsome and DeMario looked great last season at Mike when Kwon was at Will so plugging in Cox at Will would be fantastic.

ChrisXVI · 03-27-2021, 03:41 PM

I took a 3 round spin on it and here’s what I did...

28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia)

60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU)

98. DT Jay Tufele (USC)

105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt)

I’m still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I’m not a know-it-all.

jeanpierre · 03-27-2021, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I took a 3 round spin on it and here’s what I did...

28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia)

60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU)

98. DT Jay Tufele (USC)

105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt)

I’m still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I’m not a know-it-all.

Like Patrick Jones alot as well - he'd be a great fit behind Cam next season...

jeanpierre · 04-07-2021, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I took a 3 round spin on it and here’s what I did...

28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia)

60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU)

98. DT Jay Tufele (USC)

105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt)

I’m still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I’m not a know-it-all.

IF our CB2 out of Farley, Horn, or Newsome isn't there, nor a really elite top 3 WR doesn't fall, I'd move back and get more Day 2 picks...

There's no DL nor OL out of the top 10 that's a R1 pick to me, nor a QB not named Trevor or Zach...

rezburna · 04-07-2021, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

IF our CB2 out of Farley, Horn, or Newsome isn't there, nor a really elite top 3 WR doesn't fall, I'd move back and get more Day 2 picks...

There's no DL nor OL out of the top 10 that's a R1 pick to me, nor a QB not named Trevor or Zach...

I like Stokes a little bit.

jeanpierre · 04-08-2021, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I like Stokes a little bit.

But with a first round pick? That's why I'd trade back, take him on Day 2, pick up an add'l Day 2 pick and upgrade or add quality depth at another position...

Couple of Day 2 CBs I like are Paulson Adebo and there's talk Asante Samuel could fall into Round 2 because of his height, and his SPARQ...

We got Tracy Porter in the Second Round...

Boston Saint · 03-27-2021, 04:26 PM

I doubt Payton will avoid drafting an offensive player for the first three rounds. It’s just not his nature.

ChrisXVI · 03-27-2021, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I doubt Payton will avoid drafting an offensive player for the first three rounds. It’s just not his nature.

Absolutely right. At this point our first round pick pretty much has to be CB. After that, I could see WR and TE being in the mix on day 2.

AsylumGuido · 03-27-2021, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Absolutely right. At this point our first round pick pretty much has to be CB. After that, I could see WR and TE being in the mix on day 2.

"We" have no clue right now what our picks have to be or might possibly be. We'll all find out when the draft actually happens. I guess I can kind of understand how y'all get into this pre-draft stuff. It keeps you involved. It's your version of off-season fantasy football.

As an old fart I'm not into wishing time moves faster, but whenever the draft does happen I'll be watching and hoping that every pick works out.

To make it interesting for me, Chris, I'll bet you that our first pick won't be a CB.

jeanpierre · 03-27-2021, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Absolutely right. At this point our first round pick pretty much has to be CB. After that, I could see WR and TE being in the mix on day 2.

We could still take a CB2 in Round 2 or 3, so I'd qualify your argument that we'd take a CB2 with a Day 1 or early Day 2 pick - 100%...

Wouldn't be surprised if we actually trade back into Round 2 and pick up some more quality depth and perhaps another starter...

Sean has a tendency of not doing the obvious because he hates being predictable, even if it's in the team's best interest...

03-27-2021, 03:25 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Okay, this was on Draft Network Mock with no trades... Rounds One and Two couldn't have been better, securing immediate starters for CB2 and WLB (Demario to the Mike)... Tylan Wallace nearly fell to me in round 3, taken five picks earlier; an immediately plug 'n play WRz... But was thrilled to find Hunter Long just sitting there - a huge get; makes those TE-jumbo packages exciting... Tyler Shelving is terrific value for a dominating NT1; massive, young, athletic NT for the next four years on a rookie contract... Jaelan Darden would provide depth behind Deonte Harris; could see lining them up on opposite sides of the field for WR-Double-Bubble-Option packages - had to do it... Josh Ball could be ready in a season at RT - perfect project for Zach Strief to mentor, unload Terron Armstead's contract, unavailability issues... Tyler Coyle would be a steal at SS; makes Jenkins expendable by mid-season... I could die a happy man JP! That draft would be incredible. You know I love Newsome and DeMario looked great last season at Mike when Kwon was at Will so plugging in Cox at Will would be fantastic.

03-27-2021, 03:41 PM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints I took a 3 round spin on it and here’s what I did... 28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia) 60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU) 98. DT Jay Tufele (USC) 105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt) I’m still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I’m not a know-it-all.

03-27-2021, 05:05 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I took a 3 round spin on it and here’s what I did... 28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia) 60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU) 98. DT Jay Tufele (USC) 105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt) I’m still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I’m not a know-it-all. Like Patrick Jones alot as well - he'd be a great fit behind Cam next season...

04-07-2021, 08:18 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I took a 3 round spin on it and here’s what I did... 28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia) 60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU) 98. DT Jay Tufele (USC) 105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt) I’m still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I’m not a know-it-all. IF our CB2 out of Farley, Horn, or Newsome isn't there, nor a really elite top 3 WR doesn't fall, I'd move back and get more Day 2 picks... There's no DL nor OL out of the top 10 that's a R1 pick to me, nor a QB not named Trevor or Zach...

04-07-2021, 04:35 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,022	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre IF our CB2 out of Farley, Horn, or Newsome isn't there, nor a really elite top 3 WR doesn't fall, I'd move back and get more Day 2 picks... There's no DL nor OL out of the top 10 that's a R1 pick to me, nor a QB not named Trevor or Zach... I like Stokes a little bit.

04-08-2021, 07:26 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by rezburna I like Stokes a little bit. But with a first round pick? That's why I'd trade back, take him on Day 2, pick up an add'l Day 2 pick and upgrade or add quality depth at another position... Couple of Day 2 CBs I like are Paulson Adebo and there's talk Asante Samuel could fall into Round 2 because of his height, and his SPARQ... We got Tracy Porter in the Second Round...

03-27-2021, 04:26 PM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints I doubt Payton will avoid drafting an offensive player for the first three rounds. It’s just not his nature.

03-27-2021, 04:32 PM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint I doubt Payton will avoid drafting an offensive player for the first three rounds. It’s just not his nature. Absolutely right. At this point our first round pick pretty much has to be CB. After that, I could see WR and TE being in the mix on day 2.

03-27-2021, 04:59 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Absolutely right. At this point our first round pick pretty much has to be CB. After that, I could see WR and TE being in the mix on day 2. "We" have no clue right now what our picks have to be or might possibly be. We'll all find out when the draft actually happens. I guess I can kind of understand how y'all get into this pre-draft stuff. It keeps you involved. It's your version of off-season fantasy football. As an old fart I'm not into wishing time moves faster, but whenever the draft does happen I'll be watching and hoping that every pick works out. To make it interesting for me, Chris, I'll bet you that our first pick won't be a CB.
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03-27-2021, 05:27 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Absolutely right. At this point our first round pick pretty much has to be CB. After that, I could see WR and TE being in the mix on day 2. We could still take a CB2 in Round 2 or 3, so I'd qualify your argument that we'd take a CB2 with a Day 1 or early Day 2 pick - 100%... Wouldn't be surprised if we actually trade back into Round 2 and pick up some more quality depth and perhaps another starter... Sean has a tendency of not doing the obvious because he hates being predictable, even if it's in the team's best interest...