2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

ChrisXVI · 04-03-2021, 03:15 PM

Forgive me for thinking out loud here, I just need to get this out there. Zaven Collins is a perfect fit for a Patriots-style defense. He’s Dont’a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. The Saints have this really weird desire to get these hybrid LB’s without actually having the ability to implement a multiple scheme. Zack Baun is such a talented player, but we couldn’t find a way to get him on the field. I fear it would be the same with Zaven Collins. Somebody in the organization wants us to run a multiple defense and we just aren’t capable of doing it. End rant.

SmashMouth · 04-03-2021, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Forgive me for thinking out loud here, I just need to get this out there. Zaven Collins is a perfect fit for a Patriots-style defense. He’s Dont’a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. The Saints have this really weird desire to get these hybrid LB’s without actually having the ability to implement a multiple scheme. Zack Baun is such a talented player, but we couldn’t find a way to get him on the field. I fear it would be the same with Zaven Collins. Somebody in the organization wants us to run a multiple defense and we just aren’t capable of doing it. End rant.

Won't Zack Baum find a way this year with the depletion of talent around him?

ChrisXVI · 04-03-2021, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Won't Zack Baum find a way this year with the depletion of talent around him?

Well that’s the million dollar question. I really wish I could know the vision for Baun this year. After we drafted him Payton said they envisioned him playing the Mike. I’d sleep a lot easier if I knew he was stepping into that role and we had one less hole to fill in the draft.

dizzle88 · 04-03-2021, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Well that’s the million dollar question. I really wish I could know the vision for Baun this year. After we drafted him Payton said they envisioned him playing the Mike. I’d sleep a lot easier if I knew he was stepping into that role and we had one less hole to fill in the draft.

To me, this just reeks of Martez Wilson again. You have a pass rushing outside backer in Baun that succeeded in college doing just that. I believe he was given under 5 snaps all season and didn't rush the passer once. With them envisioning him at the Mike position.

He'll be another square peg round hole guy that FO can't make work.

04-03-2021, 03:15 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Forgive me for thinking out loud here, I just need to get this out there. Zaven Collins is a perfect fit for a Patriots-style defense. He’s Dont’a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. The Saints have this really weird desire to get these hybrid LB’s without actually having the ability to implement a multiple scheme. Zack Baun is such a talented player, but we couldn’t find a way to get him on the field. I fear it would be the same with Zaven Collins. Somebody in the organization wants us to run a multiple defense and we just aren’t capable of doing it. End rant.
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04-03-2021, 06:46 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,813 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Forgive me for thinking out loud here, I just need to get this out there. Zaven Collins is a perfect fit for a Patriots-style defense. He’s Dont’a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. The Saints have this really weird desire to get these hybrid LB’s without actually having the ability to implement a multiple scheme. Zack Baun is such a talented player, but we couldn’t find a way to get him on the field. I fear it would be the same with Zaven Collins. Somebody in the organization wants us to run a multiple defense and we just aren’t capable of doing it. End rant. Won't Zack Baum find a way this year with the depletion of talent around him?

04-03-2021, 07:43 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by SmashMouth Won't Zack Baum find a way this year with the depletion of talent around him? Well that’s the million dollar question. I really wish I could know the vision for Baun this year. After we drafted him Payton said they envisioned him playing the Mike. I’d sleep a lot easier if I knew he was stepping into that role and we had one less hole to fill in the draft.

04-03-2021, 08:41 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Well that’s the million dollar question. I really wish I could know the vision for Baun this year. After we drafted him Payton said they envisioned him playing the Mike. I’d sleep a lot easier if I knew he was stepping into that role and we had one less hole to fill in the draft. To me, this just reeks of Martez Wilson again. You have a pass rushing outside backer in Baun that succeeded in college doing just that. I believe he was given under 5 snaps all season and didn't rush the passer once. With them envisioning him at the Mike position. He'll be another square peg round hole guy that FO can't make work.