2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

jeanpierre · 04-05-2021, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

I get your logic and agree, but we fairly recently (2015 iirc) drafted a third round QB, didn’t work out but the FO must have though very highly of him, given the fairly high draft pick, 75 overall, used. I’m not as confident in the Saints player analytics wrt QB’s as I am wrt OLinemen, lol.

The way I’m looking at the QB pos’n right now is unless there is a slam dunk guarantee starter, in this draft, who will be better than Jameis or Taysom..., then don’t address a possible “need” or a possible “cap saver”. This team has some quite obvious, unambiguous needs. Prioritize those.

Tom Brady was the 199th pick, Round 6. Joe Montana a third round pick. Drew Brees was the 32nd pick, and Brett Favre 33rd pick, both in the second round...

Kurt Warner was an Undrafted Free Agent...

So your QB can come from any location, though I admit, most come in the first round...

gosaints1 · 04-05-2021, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Tom Brady was the 199th pick, Round 6. Joe Montana a third round pick. Drew Brees was the 32nd pick, and Brett Favre 33rd pick, both in the second round...

Kurt Warner was an Undrafted Free Agent...

So your QB can come from any location, though I admit, most come in the first round...

Fully understand..., and agree. So..., which one of the potential second round and later guys are going to supplant Tom Brady, or Joe Montana? I don’t think the Saints know either. If they did know, unequivocally and unambiguously, then I’m all on board with drafting a Tom Brady or Joe Montana or Drew Brees replacement, in any position.

Trust me, I know the quantitative analysis is there on dang near everybody in the draft, regardless of pos’n, but sometimes fit with a team, or a single bad position coach, or a personality quirk, etc... can turn a superstar in the making into persona non grata with an NFL team’s FO, ensuring he is seen as a bust.

It’s the uncertainty, not the round drafted. imho, if you’re drafted, you have the potential. After that, it’s just development and fit that makes the difference between success or failure. Brees wasn’t exactly a stud puppy at San Diego, and regardless of injury, I firmly believe he would have been completely wasted had he and Payton not found their joined at the hip relationship.

04-05-2021, 10:10 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by gosaints1 I get your logic and agree, but we fairly recently (2015 iirc) drafted a third round QB, didn’t work out but the FO must have though very highly of him, given the fairly high draft pick, 75 overall, used. I’m not as confident in the Saints player analytics wrt QB’s as I am wrt OLinemen, lol. The way I’m looking at the QB pos’n right now is unless there is a slam dunk guarantee starter, in this draft, who will be better than Jameis or Taysom..., then don’t address a possible “need” or a possible “cap saver”. This team has some quite obvious, unambiguous needs. Prioritize those. Tom Brady was the 199th pick, Round 6. Joe Montana a third round pick. Drew Brees was the 32nd pick, and Brett Favre 33rd pick, both in the second round... Kurt Warner was an Undrafted Free Agent... So your QB can come from any location, though I admit, most come in the first round...

04-05-2021, 10:42 PM	#2
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Tom Brady was the 199th pick, Round 6. Joe Montana a third round pick. Drew Brees was the 32nd pick, and Brett Favre 33rd pick, both in the second round... Kurt Warner was an Undrafted Free Agent... So your QB can come from any location, though I admit, most come in the first round... Fully understand..., and agree. So..., which one of the potential second round and later guys are going to supplant Tom Brady, or Joe Montana? I don’t think the Saints know either. If they did know, unequivocally and unambiguously, then I’m all on board with drafting a Tom Brady or Joe Montana or Drew Brees replacement, in any position. Trust me, I know the quantitative analysis is there on dang near everybody in the draft, regardless of pos’n, but sometimes fit with a team, or a single bad position coach, or a personality quirk, etc... can turn a superstar in the making into persona non grata with an NFL team’s FO, ensuring he is seen as a bust. It’s the uncertainty, not the round drafted. imho, if you’re drafted, you have the potential. After that, it’s just development and fit that makes the difference between success or failure. Brees wasn’t exactly a stud puppy at San Diego, and regardless of injury, I firmly believe he would have been completely wasted had he and Payton not found their joined at the hip relationship.
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