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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly what was I wrong about? Using twenty years as a basis of research? Fine. That didn't meet your parameters. Pointing out that Payton has no greater aversion to drafting LSU players than anyone else in ...

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Old 07-22-2021, 10:06 AM   #1
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Exactly what was I wrong about? Using twenty years as a basis of research? Fine. That didn't meet your parameters. Pointing out that Payton has no greater aversion to drafting LSU players than anyone else in the NFL? I am not wrong on that. That is your limited perception. That does not make it true. The fact is that when you compare the limited number of LSU players drafted over the past 15 years half the teams in the league mostly likely drafted no more than one if any other teams drafted more than three over that stretch.

It all comes down to this ... you claim Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. I've been saying you have no proof to there being any actual aversion. The only way I can be wrong is if you can prove that Payton indeed has that aversion.
You used an argument of 20 years when Payton has been here since 2006, that's fifteen years...

You need to admit that - You. were. wrong.
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Old 07-22-2021, 10:28 AM   #2
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You used an argument of 20 years when Payton has been here since 2006, that's fifteen years...

You need to admit that - You. were. wrong.
That wasn't even the crux of the entire discussion. I used 20 years simply because the numbers were easily at hand, still demonstrated the very low number of LSU players drafted per franchise and including the 15 years with Payton as head coach was right on the league average percentage of LSU players drafted. Was I wrong about using those parameters? Trivial as it is, I guess you can make that argument.

The true discussion was based upon your claiming that Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. Where is the proof of that? Simply your saying it is so doesn't make it true. I simply pointed out that fact and you began questioning my objectivity because I cannot come up with any reason to complain about Sean Payton. Does that make me wrong somehow?

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Old 07-22-2021, 10:31 AM   #3
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That wasn't even the crux of the entire discussion. I used 20 years simply because the numbers were easily at hand, still demonstrated the very low number of LSU players drafted per franchise and including the 15 years with Payton as head coach was right on the league average percentage of LSU players drafted. Was I wrong about using those parameters? Trivial as it is, I guess you can make that argument.

The true discussion was based upon your claiming that Sean Payton has an established aversion to drafting LSU players. Where is the proof of that? Simply your saying it is so doesn't make it true. I simply pointed out that fact and you began questioning my objectivity because I cannot come up with any reason to complain about Sean Payton. Does that make me wrong somehow?
You made a humiliating mistake trying to cite non-applicable data...

You. were. wrong.
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
You made a humiliating mistake trying to cite non-applicable data...

You. were. wrong.
Humiliating? LOL! Yeah, sure. Do you actually get humiliated over something as trivial as that? Come now, JP.



But you continue to deflect the whole point ... where is your proof that Payton has an aversion to drafting LSU players?

Payton has drafted two LSU players over his 15 years. Al Woods and Will Clapp. There was only one drafted in the previous five years. That's still close to the league average. Nothing that would approach an aversion.
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Humiliating? LOL! Yeah, sure. Do you actually get humiliated over something as trivial as that? Come now, JP.



But you continue to deflect the whole point ... where is your proof that Payton has an aversion to drafting LSU players?

Payton has drafted two LSU players over his 15 years. Al Woods and Will Clapp. There was only one drafted in the previous five years. That's still close to the league average. Nothing that would approach an aversion.
Payton tenure started in 2006, this is 2021, that's fifteen years...

You. were. wrong.
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Old 07-22-2021, 01:50 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Payton tenure started in 2006, this is 2021, that's fifteen years...

You. were. wrong.
Yawn.
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