Malcolm Jenkins’s perspective on NFL retirement. (It’s about Drew)

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2021, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'd rather take a flier on getting a younger QB who can stretch the field. It may not be pretty to begin with but I think it's time Brees retired.

With Drew we are great in the regular season and suck on Offense in the playoffs, when we play teams that actually know how to defend 10-15 yard plays.

After Brees it could very well take many, many years to even return to the playoffs. Payton's time as head coach will soon be over. The availability of quality free agents that have been so ready to join the Saints for the opportunity to play with Brees will dry up just as quickly. The wait for another great QB can be just as long as that between Archie and Drew.

dizzle88 · 02-02-2021, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

After Brees it could very well take many, many years to even return to the playoffs. Payton's time as head coach will soon be over. The availability of quality free agents that have been so ready to join the Saints for the opportunity to play with Brees will dry up just as quickly. The wait for another great QB can be just as long as that between Archie and Drew.

Absolutely agree, but the NFL is a risky sport. You could be terrible, you could get the next Patrick Mahomes.

I love what Brees has done for this team and will forever be thankful for how exciting he made this team to watch, but I strongly believe its just delaying the inevitable at this point.

I can forget about how badly he and the team played vs Bucs quite easily, but if he pulls a Brett Favre and just never knows when to call it quits, he'll only end up damaging his legacy in my opinion.

I'd rather he leave whilst he's still beloved by fans, than outstay his welcome. The 10-15 yard offense is holding us back in the playoffs, has been since 2018.

AsylumGuido · 02-02-2021, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Absolutely agree, but the NFL is a risky sport. You could be terrible, you could get the next Patrick Mahomes.

I love what Brees has done for this team and will forever be thankful for how exciting he made this team to watch, but I strongly believe its just delaying the inevitable at this point.

I can forget about how badly he and the team played vs Bucs quite easily, but if he pulls a Brett Favre and just never knows when to call it quits, he'll only end up damaging his legacy in my opinion.

I'd rather he leave whilst he's still beloved by fans, than outstay his welcome. The 10-15 yard offense is holding us back in the playoffs, has been since 2018.

At least we made it to the playoffs. Without him we're at home watching.

gosaints1 · 02-02-2021, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

At least we made it to the playoffs. Without him we're at home watching.

The Saints went 8-1 without Drew Brees as the starter. It’s a very good team, even without him.

blackangold · 02-02-2021, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Absolutely agree, but the NFL is a risky sport. You could be terrible, you could get the next Patrick Mahomes.

I love what Brees has done for this team and will forever be thankful for how exciting he made this team to watch, but I strongly believe its just delaying the inevitable at this point.

I can forget about how badly he and the team played vs Bucs quite easily, but if he pulls a Brett Favre and just never knows when to call it quits, he'll only end up damaging his legacy in my opinion.

I'd rather he leave whilst he's still beloved by fans, than outstay his welcome. The 10-15 yard offense is holding us back in the playoffs, has been since 2018.

In my opinion he has already damaged his legacy. Pundits and others I’ll randomly talk football with come to the same conclusion most of the time... that he can’t throw the ball more than 10yds. Obviously, you all know I agree and usually talk about how he should have retired years ago.... but I digress.

I truly hope he retires. This team is great because of Payton, as long as he is around we’ll always have a shot.

TheOak · 02-03-2021, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

In my opinion he has already damaged his legacy. Pundits and others I’ll randomly talk football with come to the same conclusion most of the time... that he can’t throw the ball more than 10yds. Obviously, you all know I agree and usually talk about how he should have retired years ago.... but I digress.

I truly hope he retires. This team is great because of Payton, as long as he is around we’ll always have a shot.

Besides the lists and rankings made by talking heads when they have nothing of value to share do NFL players really have legacies anymore outside of a Canton shrine, and how accurate are they?

Honestly if players could destroy their legacies at the end of their careers Favre would have been a prime example. Does anyone remember his season with the Jets? Would we remember his two seasons with the Vikings if we hadn't broken him in the NFCCG? The guy texted pictures of his junk to a cheerleader and that didn't damage anything.

The end of Manning's career looks similar to Drew's. I agree he needs to retire since he cant get through a whole season but I am not convinced his legacy, if he has one outside of Saints fans, will be damaged?

saintsfan1976 · 02-03-2021, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

After Brees it could very well take many, many years to even return to the playoffs. Payton's time as head coach will soon be over. The availability of quality free agents that have been so ready to join the Saints for the opportunity to play with Brees will dry up just as quickly. The wait for another great QB can be just as long as that between Archie and Drew.

If rumors are true. Saints had Tom Brady on deck. So it could also be that this team is just as likely to make a move at QB that puts them right back into the playoffs.

With Brees here, we'll have to wait to find out. And the question over the last three years isn't whether Brees can get us there, it's can he get us over the top.

Vikings 2017, Rams 2018 - I'd say yes. Vikings 2020, Bucs 2021 - I'd say no way, not anymore.

02-02-2021, 03:58 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Malcolm Jenkins’s perspective on NFL retirement. (It’s about Drew) Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'd rather take a flier on getting a younger QB who can stretch the field. It may not be pretty to begin with but I think it's time Brees retired. With Drew we are great in the regular season and suck on Offense in the playoffs, when we play teams that actually know how to defend 10-15 yard plays. After Brees it could very well take many, many years to even return to the playoffs. Payton's time as head coach will soon be over. The availability of quality free agents that have been so ready to join the Saints for the opportunity to play with Brees will dry up just as quickly. The wait for another great QB can be just as long as that between Archie and Drew.

02-02-2021, 04:36 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Malcolm Jenkins’s perspective on NFL retirement. (It’s about Drew) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido After Brees it could very well take many, many years to even return to the playoffs. Payton's time as head coach will soon be over. The availability of quality free agents that have been so ready to join the Saints for the opportunity to play with Brees will dry up just as quickly. The wait for another great QB can be just as long as that between Archie and Drew. Absolutely agree, but the NFL is a risky sport. You could be terrible, you could get the next Patrick Mahomes. I love what Brees has done for this team and will forever be thankful for how exciting he made this team to watch, but I strongly believe its just delaying the inevitable at this point. I can forget about how badly he and the team played vs Bucs quite easily, but if he pulls a Brett Favre and just never knows when to call it quits, he'll only end up damaging his legacy in my opinion. I'd rather he leave whilst he's still beloved by fans, than outstay his welcome. The 10-15 yard offense is holding us back in the playoffs, has been since 2018. Rsanders24 and gosaints1 like this.
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02-02-2021, 05:45 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Malcolm Jenkins’s perspective on NFL retirement. (It’s about Drew) Originally Posted by dizzle88 Absolutely agree, but the NFL is a risky sport. You could be terrible, you could get the next Patrick Mahomes. I love what Brees has done for this team and will forever be thankful for how exciting he made this team to watch, but I strongly believe its just delaying the inevitable at this point. I can forget about how badly he and the team played vs Bucs quite easily, but if he pulls a Brett Favre and just never knows when to call it quits, he'll only end up damaging his legacy in my opinion. I'd rather he leave whilst he's still beloved by fans, than outstay his welcome. The 10-15 yard offense is holding us back in the playoffs, has been since 2018. At least we made it to the playoffs. Without him we're at home watching.

02-02-2021, 06:15 PM	#4
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Malcolm Jenkins’s perspective on NFL retirement. (It’s about Drew) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido At least we made it to the playoffs. Without him we're at home watching. The Saints went 8-1 without Drew Brees as the starter. It’s a very good team, even without him. jnormand, Rsanders24, saintsfan1976 and 3 others like this.
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02-02-2021, 09:02 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Malcolm Jenkins’s perspective on NFL retirement. (It’s about Drew) Originally Posted by dizzle88 Absolutely agree, but the NFL is a risky sport. You could be terrible, you could get the next Patrick Mahomes. I love what Brees has done for this team and will forever be thankful for how exciting he made this team to watch, but I strongly believe its just delaying the inevitable at this point. I can forget about how badly he and the team played vs Bucs quite easily, but if he pulls a Brett Favre and just never knows when to call it quits, he'll only end up damaging his legacy in my opinion. I'd rather he leave whilst he's still beloved by fans, than outstay his welcome. The 10-15 yard offense is holding us back in the playoffs, has been since 2018. In my opinion he has already damaged his legacy. Pundits and others I’ll randomly talk football with come to the same conclusion most of the time... that he can’t throw the ball more than 10yds. Obviously, you all know I agree and usually talk about how he should have retired years ago.... but I digress. I truly hope he retires. This team is great because of Payton, as long as he is around we’ll always have a shot. Rsanders24, dizzle88 and shawnkytonk like this.

02-03-2021, 05:05 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Malcolm Jenkins’s perspective on NFL retirement. (It’s about Drew) Originally Posted by blackangold In my opinion he has already damaged his legacy. Pundits and others I’ll randomly talk football with come to the same conclusion most of the time... that he can’t throw the ball more than 10yds. Obviously, you all know I agree and usually talk about how he should have retired years ago.... but I digress. I truly hope he retires. This team is great because of Payton, as long as he is around we’ll always have a shot. Besides the lists and rankings made by talking heads when they have nothing of value to share do NFL players really have legacies anymore outside of a Canton shrine, and how accurate are they? Honestly if players could destroy their legacies at the end of their careers Favre would have been a prime example. Does anyone remember his season with the Jets? Would we remember his two seasons with the Vikings if we hadn't broken him in the NFCCG? The guy texted pictures of his junk to a cheerleader and that didn't damage anything. The end of Manning's career looks similar to Drew's. I agree he needs to retire since he cant get through a whole season but I am not convinced his legacy, if he has one outside of Saints fans, will be damaged? jnormand likes this.
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02-03-2021, 05:02 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Malcolm Jenkins’s perspective on NFL retirement. (It’s about Drew) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido After Brees it could very well take many, many years to even return to the playoffs. Payton's time as head coach will soon be over. The availability of quality free agents that have been so ready to join the Saints for the opportunity to play with Brees will dry up just as quickly. The wait for another great QB can be just as long as that between Archie and Drew. If rumors are true. Saints had Tom Brady on deck. So it could also be that this team is just as likely to make a move at QB that puts them right back into the playoffs. With Brees here, we'll have to wait to find out. And the question over the last three years isn't whether Brees can get us there, it's can he get us over the top. Vikings 2017, Rams 2018 - I'd say yes. Vikings 2020, Bucs 2021 - I'd say no way, not anymore.