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SmashMouth 02-08-2021 08:21 PM

Saints DE Trey Hendrickson is going to 'be an attractive free agent for anyone,' GM Mickey Loomis says
 
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New Orleans Saints defensive end Trey Hendrickson's monster season in 2020 came at a good time for the Florida Atlantic product ó right at the end of his rookie deal.

Hendrickson posted 13Ĺ sacks in 15 regular season games, and he's "going to be an attractive free agent for anyone," Saints general manager Mickey Loomis said Wednesday.

"Certainly we want him back," Loomis said, but there's one small hangup for the Saints right now when it comes to Hendrickson and their other players headed for free agency.

The salary cap for 2021 hasn't been set yet. Though it's expected to be considerably less after the coronavirus pandemic sent league revenue on a downward spin, Loomis said he doesn't have "even a narrow range" of what to expect.

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The Dude 02-08-2021 08:38 PM

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Sign him and get rid of Davenport.

K Major 02-08-2021 08:40 PM

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Trey H is about to get paid. And paid at a high premium.

A franchise not named the New Orleans Saints will throw major coin in his direction. Jacksonville is a realistic destination for him. Florida is his home state, wife is from Southern FL and the Jags have cap space and in need for a DE.

We still have Granderson, Cam J and Davenport though.

FinSaint 02-09-2021 03:35 AM

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I'm not going to be too upset about losing him. He has had injury problems during his rookie contract and even if the Saints had the cap to re-sign him - I'd be hesitant to give a big contract to a "one-year wonder."

Although, the coaches know if it was just a result of development or a side effect of the DTs and Jordan creating more chances for him to shine.

TheOak 02-09-2021 04:21 AM

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I will go on the record with a prediction. 2022 will be many a Saints fan's dream year. should get 10+ compensatory picks.

Boston Saint 02-09-2021 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 914219)
I will go on the record with a prediction. 2022 will be many a Saints fan's dream year. should get 10+ compensatory picks.

Would be nice Oak, but I donít think itís possible though. According to Under the Cap.com :

ď A team may not be awarded any more than four compensatory picks in one year. If the formula initially awards a team more than four, the lowest of the picks over the per-team limit of four are not awarded, although the league will still recognize that those picks would have otherwise been eligible for compensation.Ē

jeanpierre 02-09-2021 08:20 AM

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Trey (Florida Atlantic) took a little longer to develop than Cam Jordan (Cal), though having an 6X ProBowl TE for a father and access to all those veterans is an advantage that can't be understated...

Also, Hendrickson has shared playing time with heavily draft-capital invested Davenport, but Trey has had his share of injuries, more to do with being undersized coming into the league...

But a comparison of the first four year production is interesting...
Cam Jordan 64 games, 120 Solo Tk, 50 QB Hits, 31 TFL, 29 Sk, 5 FF
Trey Hendrickson 45 games, 47 Solo Tk, 43 Qb Hits, 18 TFL, 20 Sk, 3 FF
Also, keep in mind, Trey often lines up against the Left Tackle vs Cam Jordan who's lining up against the Right Tackle, with the exception of Ramczyk, how many elite RTs are in the NFL vs LTs?

Cam was paid like an elite DE despite only solid numbers during his rookie contract; Trey compares favorably despite less games, some due to injury, some healthy scratches...

One hit wonder? Maybe, but I doubt it. I'd draw more a line to Trey having Nielsen developing him...

Don't know who'll we'll be able to afford, but losing both Trey Hendrickson and Marcus Williams will be costly...

And I'd seriously consider getting a discount from Cam Jordan who's production took a serious nose dive this season...

And I know this, we now have developed an elite DE, and he's in the house, now - so find a way to pay him now or pay another later...

ProFootball Reference StatHead Player Comparison - Trey Hendrickson, Cam Jordan

jeanpierre 02-09-2021 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 914212)
Sign him and get rid of Davenport.

Davenport is on a rookie contract, and I'd claim the fifth year option on him as well...

Y'all know I've b*tched ad nauseum about spending two firsts and a fifth rounds picks to move up to get him, but that's not on him but on Sean Payton.

But as simply a first round pick, he's been solid; the sack totals are frustrating as getting the QB on the ground is the only way to really shut down the passing attack...

But for the cap investment, it'd be unwise to move on from him without significant draft capital in return...

K Major 02-09-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 914222)
Don't know who'll we'll be able to afford, but losing both Trey Hendrickson and Marcus Williams will be costly...

I certainly hope we find a way to keep Marcus W. It took some time but IMO he has turned a corner with his decision making on the back end. I also believe newly acquired Kris Richard can coach him up Ö even more so than Glenn.

If we lose him to Free Agency, where do we go from here at the FS position? Draft? Retain PJ services or try to find a baller on a budget in free agency?

Kris could have his eye on one of his former players (Seattle/Dallas) too.

jeanpierre 02-09-2021 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 914226)
I certainly hope we find a way to keep Marcus W. It took some time but IMO he has turned a corner with his decision making on the back end. I also believe newly acquired Kris Richard can coach him up Ö even more so than Glenn.

If we lose him to Free Agency, where do we go from here at the FS position? Draft? Retain PJ services or try to find a baller on a budget in free agency?

Kris could have his eye on one of his former players (Seattle/Dallas) too.

I'd rather keep the guys we drafted and developed...

Some of the older players were paid and it's time to either re-work those contracts or move on...

K Major 02-09-2021 10:53 AM

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If Marcus should move on, I'd look at drafting another safety.

There is some talent in this years draft (kid from TCU & Pitt) class that could be had. Potentially another Antoine Winfield Jr. out there. IIRC he went in the 2nd Ö immediate impact player for Tampa.

Rugby Saint II 02-09-2021 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 914233)
If Marcus should move on, I'd look at drafting another safety.

There is some talent in this years draft (kid from TCU & Pitt) class that could be had. Potentially another Antoine Winfield Jr. out there. IIRC he went in the 2nd Ö immediate impact player for Tampa.

I've been reading up on Safeties. There are several appealing products available if we want to draft a wide ranging, speedy, sure tackling safety then this looks to be the year to do it. I'd rather go O-line in the first though to open up the running game more and keep the pocket clean for whoever takes #9's position.

jeanpierre 02-09-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 914233)
If Marcus should move on, I'd look at drafting another safety.

There is some talent in this years draft (kid from TCU & Pitt) class that could be had. Potentially another Antoine Winfield Jr. out there. IIRC he went in the 2nd Ö immediate impact player for Tampa.

Good Safeties tend to have greater longevity; Marcus came out of the gates performing at a high level (PFF grade of 90+ as a rookie for what that's worth)...

Don't know why we signed or are keeping Malcolm Jenkins; I'd rather put Gardner in a position to make even more plays; should P.J. re-sign he'd be a solid nickel and great flexible depth...

Malcolm Jenkins is costing us $9M against the cap, re-work his contract and let Gardner prove he's expendable...

That money could've been used toward T-Rex and Mr. Marcus...

RefsRobbedUs 02-09-2021 02:19 PM

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He gone

K Major 02-09-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 914256)
He gone

Damn.

Some have speculated that his asking price will start at or around 10+M per. If in fact Trey does sign elsewhere, I'm not mad at him.

SmashMouth 02-09-2021 05:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 914233)
If Marcus should move on, I'd look at drafting another safety.

There is some talent in this years draft (kid from TCU & Pitt) class that could be had. Potentially another Antoine Winfield Jr. out there. IIRC he went in the 2nd Ö immediate impact player for Tampa.

I suggest we DO move on from Marcus. Since we'll be getting 10+ compensatory picks next year, we'll have a chance to reload and cut salaries for cap space.

dizzle88 02-09-2021 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 914263)
I suggest we DO move on from Marcus. Since we'll be getting 10+ compensatory picks next year, we'll have a chance to reload anf cut salaries for cap space.

Any picks we do get will be docked by the NFL due to Paytons continued stupidity.

gosaints1 02-09-2021 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 914263)
I suggest we DO move on from Marcus. Since we'll be getting 10+ compensatory picks next year, we'll have a chance to reload and cut salaries for cap space.

Comp picks are capped at four, arenít they?

jeanpierre 02-09-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 914267)
Comp picks are capped at four, arenít they?

How the NFL Draft's compensatory pick formula works

Boston Saint 02-09-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 914267)
Comp picks are capped at four, arenít they?

Yes. I pointed that out earlier in this thread.


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