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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre So continue making the same mistakes, never learning, improving? Hmmm, I view the draft as a gamble, from the very first selection to the very last, and regardless of team or coach or executive, they all ...
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Re: ARE WE SEEING THE NEW NFL...
Hmmm, I view the draft as a gamble, from the very first selection to the very last, and regardless of team or coach or executive, they all make mistakes, and lots of them. Heck, Tom Brady almost fell completely out of the draft. Are we really trying to insinuate that, in retrospect, there were 198 draft choice mistakes ahead of a guy like Tom Brady? It’s a fair argument to make, that had Brady been drafted by the 1-15 Carolina Panthers team, then he might not be what he is today.
Bottom line, all teams make mistakes when it comes to drafting, and personnel selection is the biggest gamble of all, even for the best scouting teams. In retrospect, every move could be labeled a mistake. As for “improving”? Tell me how one improves on the ability to have foreknowledge of the future. Learning? There is no doubt that they’ve learned from the things they’ve done well, and those they haven’t, wrt drafts. idk jp, a fair argument can be made that certain superstar players on other teams would have been failures on our team bc of lack of coaching or any other unique environmental considerations specific to each individual team. I’m not defending CSP’s drafting since he got here, heck I would even argue in your favor that he hasn’t had much success. But, you haven’t sold me on the idea that if he had chosen other people, the outcomes would have been measurably different. ie..., had the Saints drafted Tom Brady, would we have played in ten Superbowls? With our coaching at that time? lol, nah, I just can’t get on board with the idea that looking backwards logic will improve our foreknowledge thinking wrt improving drafting. |
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Re: ARE WE SEEING THE NEW NFL...
Originally Posted by gosaints1
GeauxSaints, If it was a complete gamble, then we'd no need for scouts; some teams hire good, competent scouts, some hire based on nepotism (Saints have been in that in-between area)...![]()
There's no question that a team(s) can reach (hmm), make a mistake, and those opportunities fall to the prepared teams that take advantage... Some teams develop a draft plan, some sh*t their hat when the draft starts, and some have no draft plan at all; very few have good draft discipline (and they're the perennial contenders)... |
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