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BakoSaint 02-21-2021 02:40 AM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
A post june 1 trade of Alvin Kamara would also save $2 million against the cap, offer much better long term savings, and more return. The Saints resigned Kamara to make one last run with Brees but it didnt work out and they probably can't win it all with a wrecked salary cap and Brees retiring, so a long term investment in the most expensive 3rd down back in NFL history, great as he is, may not be wise.

dizzle88 02-21-2021 07:54 AM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 914865)
Well, yeah, when the safeties finally figure out they can stack in the box, that defense is gonna show out...

Exactly, not difficult to do against us. It's been done in 3 straight playoff exits since 2018.

lee909 02-21-2021 10:49 AM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 914868)
A post june 1 trade of Alvin Kamara would also save $2 million against the cap, offer much better long term savings, and more return. The Saints resigned Kamara to make one last run with Brees but it didnt work out and they probably can't win it all with a wrecked salary cap and Brees retiring, so a long term investment in the most expensive 3rd down back in NFL history, great as he is, may not be wise.

It's the same with Thomas, Armstead, Cameron but it doesn't really help as they can't be traded for 2020 picks as far as I'm aware. And the teams needs to be under the cap before then from what I've been reading.

Only way a trade helps is if the plan is tank

SaintFanInATLHELL 02-21-2021 11:22 AM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 914868)
A post june 1 trade of Alvin Kamara would also save $2 million against the cap, offer much better long term savings, and more return. The Saints resigned Kamara to make one last run with Brees but it didnt work out and they probably can't win it all with a wrecked salary cap and Brees retiring, so a long term investment in the most expensive 3rd down back in NFL history, great as he is, may not be wise.

Does not compute. Kamara's cap hit this year is $5M. Even if traded after June 1, the cap hit for the next two years would accelerate to $15M each year of 2021 and 2022.

The Saints cannot afford to do anything with Kamara until likely after 2023.

SFIAH

st thomas 02-21-2021 11:28 AM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
The cap is so overrated I think, watch Mickey do his magic.


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Boston Saint 02-21-2021 01:19 PM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 914870)
Exactly, not difficult to do against us. It's been done in 3 straight playoff exits since 2018.

If it was that simple other teams would do it more often in the regular season and they would not have won the division this many times in a row.

SaintGnome 02-21-2021 05:41 PM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 914865)
Well, yeah, when the safeties finally figure out they can stack in the box, that defense is gonna show out...

That doesn't really explain how they also beat Greenbay and KC, two of the stronger armed QB's as well.

Boston Saint 02-21-2021 06:21 PM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
I’ll say it again...Tampa had 3 quality WRs and a HOF TE. Plus a good 1-2 RB punch. Brees was throwing to an injured Thomas and Sanders plus a TE that fumbled and dropped 2 passes. If Hill or Harris is available to add a little relief, Saints win. Saints not being able to convert in red zone wasn’t because he had a noodle arm...it’s because he didn’t have the necessary weapons (Hill and Murray) to punch it in. Writing it off as a lack of Brees arm strength is using him as scapegoat.

AsylumGuido 02-21-2021 06:54 PM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 914887)
I’ll say it again...Tampa had 3 quality WRs and a HOF TE. Plus a good 1-2 RB punch. Brees was throwing to an injured Thomas and Sanders plus a TE that fumbled and dropped 2 passes. If Hill or Harris is available to add a little relief, Saints win. Saints not being able to convert in red zone wasn’t because he had a noodle arm...it’s because he didn’t have the necessary weapons (Hill and Murray) to punch it in. Writing it off as a lack of Brees arm strength is using him as scapegoat.

Amen, my brother! Amen!

Rugby Saint II 02-22-2021 12:16 PM

Re: Latavius Murray
 
Murray is great in New Orleans in his role as a banger back. I hope he stays. He seems like a team first guy. Maybe he'll take a reduction to stay in New Orleans. Or he could chase the money and end up somewhere like Detroit.


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