Brees coming back?

AsylumGuido · 02-18-2021, 06:06 PM

Drew was dealing with a rotator cuff injury in his throwing shoulder. That didn't become known until after the season. I would not be surprised if he wanted to return to play another season with a healthy shoulder and real fans in the stands. If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now.

jeanpierre · 02-18-2021, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Drew was dealing with a rotator cuff injury in his throwing shoulder. That didn't become known until after the season. I would not be surprised if he wanted to return to play another season with a healthy shoulder and real fans in the stands. If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now.

What rotator cuff? He didn't have one when we signed him as a free agent back in '06...

He's got a re-visioned cuff that Doc Andrews made from tendons and striated muscle...

And it requires a tremendous effort of Brees and the physical therapy support staff to get it strong enough to compensate...

That is why his story is so amazing and why he deserved to be compensated accordingly...

blackangold · 02-19-2021, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now.

Unfortunately this is correct...

I really hope he doesn't come back. He might have been injured, and he will be if he plays again. Drew will never be healthy for the last 10 games of the season. If I ranked QBs he'd be in the 15-20 range of current QBs.

Yes, Drew would start hot and look good, like he does most seasons. However, for the games that matter most he'll start falling apart. Can't throw the long ball, and towards the end of the season he couldn't throw accurately at all.

I hope I don't have to keep ragging on Drew, but it'll be another season to damage his legacy if he returns.

I am ready for Winston.... (Two years ago I would have thrown up at the thought)

jeanpierre · 02-19-2021, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Unfortunately this is correct...

I really hope he doesn't come back. He might have been injured, and he will be if he plays again. Drew will never be healthy for the last 10 games of the season. If I ranked QBs he'd be in the 15-20 range of current QBs.

Yes, Drew would start hot and look good, like he does most seasons. However, for the games that matter most he'll start falling apart. Can't throw the long ball, and towards the end of the season he couldn't throw accurately at all.

I hope I don't have to keep ragging on Drew, but it'll be another season to damage his legacy if he returns.

I am ready for Winston.... (Two years ago I would have thrown up at the thought)

Not necessarily - timing of the announcement may just be about Loomis' wiggling room with the cap as Feb 23rd is approaching and we'll see if Loomis designates anyone with the franchise tag...

Once we're into the new NFL calendar year, Mar 15 I believe, we'll probably have a more formal announcement with a post Jun 1 retirement designation...

Plus, I seriously doubt Drew would play for $1MIL/season - his current contractual number...

darksoul35 · 02-19-2021, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Drew was dealing with a rotator cuff injury in his throwing shoulder. That didn't become known until after the season. I would not be surprised if he wanted to return to play another season with a healthy shoulder and real fans in the stands. If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now.

This is why I want him to come back. I know Im in the minority but I think he gives us the best chance.

lee909 · 02-20-2021, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Drew was dealing with a rotator cuff injury in his throwing shoulder. That didn't become known until after the season. I would not be surprised if he wanted to return to play another season with a healthy shoulder and real fans in the stands. If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now.

Not necessarily
He won't retire officially until June 1st so the cap is spread and the way Goodell hates the Saints he will probably try and scream them on cap tampering or some drivel if he announced it now and then retired later. Even if its been done before

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2021, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Not necessarily
He won't retire officially until June 1st so the cap is spread and the way Goodell hates the Saints he will probably try and scream them on cap tampering or some drivel if he announced it now and then retired later. Even if its been done before

You can announce intention to retire today and it can still be official post June 1st when the papers are filed. That's the way it works.

lee909 · 02-20-2021, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You can announce intention to retire today and it can still be official post June 1st when the papers are filed. That's the way it works.

After what I've seen from Goddell and the contract restructure I wouldn't rely on rules. He's likely giving himself time but with Payton so vocal on Winston I don't see him being back

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2021, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

After what I've seen from Goddell and the contract restructure I wouldn't rely on rules. He's likely giving himself time but with Payton so vocal on Winston I don't see him being back

If Payton was so high on resigning Winston why would he be pumping him up so much and inflating his value? That makes no sense. It's all fluff, lee. If you want to keep a free agent you don't go out and inflate his value. That's just plain stupid.

Edit: But then again, there are some here that are convinced that Sean Payton is stupid. So there's that.

The Dude · 02-20-2021, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If Payton was so high on resigning Winston why would he be pumping him up so much and inflating his value? That makes no sense. It's all fluff, lee. If you want to keep a free agent you don't go out and inflate his value. That's just plain stupid.

Edit: But then again, there are some here that are convinced that Sean Payton is stupid. So there's that.

Point taken but I don’t see what any of that has to do with Brees staying or retiring.

02-18-2021, 06:06 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Brees coming back? Drew was dealing with a rotator cuff injury in his throwing shoulder. That didn't become known until after the season. I would not be surprised if he wanted to return to play another season with a healthy shoulder and real fans in the stands. If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now. gulfgambler, darksoul35, Thirty3 and 1 others like this.

02-18-2021, 06:34 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Drew was dealing with a rotator cuff injury in his throwing shoulder. That didn't become known until after the season. I would not be surprised if he wanted to return to play another season with a healthy shoulder and real fans in the stands. If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now. What rotator cuff? He didn't have one when we signed him as a free agent back in '06... He's got a re-visioned cuff that Doc Andrews made from tendons and striated muscle... And it requires a tremendous effort of Brees and the physical therapy support staff to get it strong enough to compensate... That is why his story is so amazing and why he deserved to be compensated accordingly...

02-19-2021, 12:37 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now. Unfortunately this is correct... I really hope he doesn't come back. He might have been injured, and he will be if he plays again. Drew will never be healthy for the last 10 games of the season. If I ranked QBs he'd be in the 15-20 range of current QBs. Yes, Drew would start hot and look good, like he does most seasons. However, for the games that matter most he'll start falling apart. Can't throw the long ball, and towards the end of the season he couldn't throw accurately at all. I hope I don't have to keep ragging on Drew, but it'll be another season to damage his legacy if he returns. I am ready for Winston.... (Two years ago I would have thrown up at the thought)
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02-19-2021, 02:41 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by blackangold Unfortunately this is correct... I really hope he doesn't come back. He might have been injured, and he will be if he plays again. Drew will never be healthy for the last 10 games of the season. If I ranked QBs he'd be in the 15-20 range of current QBs. Yes, Drew would start hot and look good, like he does most seasons. However, for the games that matter most he'll start falling apart. Can't throw the long ball, and towards the end of the season he couldn't throw accurately at all. I hope I don't have to keep ragging on Drew, but it'll be another season to damage his legacy if he returns. I am ready for Winston.... (Two years ago I would have thrown up at the thought) Not necessarily - timing of the announcement may just be about Loomis' wiggling room with the cap as Feb 23rd is approaching and we'll see if Loomis designates anyone with the franchise tag... Once we're into the new NFL calendar year, Mar 15 I believe, we'll probably have a more formal announcement with a post Jun 1 retirement designation... Plus, I seriously doubt Drew would play for $1MIL/season - his current contractual number... Boston Saint likes this.

02-19-2021, 04:33 PM	#5
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,045	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Drew was dealing with a rotator cuff injury in his throwing shoulder. That didn't become known until after the season. I would not be surprised if he wanted to return to play another season with a healthy shoulder and real fans in the stands. If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now. This is why I want him to come back. I know Im in the minority but I think he gives us the best chance. AsylumGuido likes this.
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02-20-2021, 08:11 PM	#6
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Drew was dealing with a rotator cuff injury in his throwing shoulder. That didn't become known until after the season. I would not be surprised if he wanted to return to play another season with a healthy shoulder and real fans in the stands. If he had decided to retire already we would have known it by now. Not necessarily He won't retire officially until June 1st so the cap is spread and the way Goodell hates the Saints he will probably try and scream them on cap tampering or some drivel if he announced it now and then retired later. Even if its been done before

02-20-2021, 08:13 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by lee909 Not necessarily He won't retire officially until June 1st so the cap is spread and the way Goodell hates the Saints he will probably try and scream them on cap tampering or some drivel if he announced it now and then retired later. Even if its been done before You can announce intention to retire today and it can still be official post June 1st when the papers are filed. That's the way it works.

02-20-2021, 08:18 PM	#8
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You can announce intention to retire today and it can still be official post June 1st when the papers are filed. That's the way it works. After what I've seen from Goddell and the contract restructure I wouldn't rely on rules. He's likely giving himself time but with Payton so vocal on Winston I don't see him being back Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-20-2021, 08:23 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by lee909 After what I've seen from Goddell and the contract restructure I wouldn't rely on rules. He's likely giving himself time but with Payton so vocal on Winston I don't see him being back If Payton was so high on resigning Winston why would he be pumping him up so much and inflating his value? That makes no sense. It's all fluff, lee. If you want to keep a free agent you don't go out and inflate his value. That's just plain stupid. Edit: But then again, there are some here that are convinced that Sean Payton is stupid. So there's that. SaintFanInATLHELL, Rugby Saint II and Garry42 like this.

02-20-2021, 09:23 PM	#10
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If Payton was so high on resigning Winston why would he be pumping him up so much and inflating his value? That makes no sense. It's all fluff, lee. If you want to keep a free agent you don't go out and inflate his value. That's just plain stupid. Edit: But then again, there are some here that are convinced that Sean Payton is stupid. So there's that. Point taken but I don’t see what any of that has to do with Brees staying or retiring.
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