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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II He was a little slow to assimilate the position and completely understand Sean Payton's complex & extensive play book. I wish him well wherever he ends up. Maybe Sanders should just listen to his ...

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Old 03-10-2021, 04:35 PM   #1
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Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson

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He was a little slow to assimilate the position and completely understand Sean Payton's complex & extensive play book. I wish him well wherever he ends up. Maybe Sanders should just listen to his next QB about route running and not argue....we all know that Drew is the master!

Edit: My original posts said Kwon...don't ask me why. Brain F***!
Or maybe he was confused with the recruitment/signing talk of we want to stretch the field, and we were unable to deliver the ball (i.e. air-yards) down the field?

Point being, we did not use Emmanuel Sanders to his strengths - and Sean, like most good coachs, use to build the playbook based on the talent he had, not a system...

With regards to injuries, the best teams overcome them, and the Saints did during regular season...

Based on the last four post-seasons, it seems to be more of a post-season mental block that starts at the top of the organization...
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Or maybe he was confused with the recruitment/signing talk of we want to stretch the field, and we were unable to deliver the ball (i.e. air-yards) down the field?

Point being, we did not use Emmanuel Sanders to his strengths - and Sean, like most good coachs, use to build the playbook based on the talent he had, not a system...

With regards to injuries, the best teams overcome them, and the Saints did during regular season...

Based on the last four post-seasons, it seems to be more of a post-season mental block that starts at the top of the organization...
Or not.
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Or not.
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Or maybe he was confused with the recruitment/signing talk of we want to stretch the field, and we were unable to deliver the ball (i.e. air-yards) down the field?

Point being, we did not use Emmanuel Sanders to his strengths - and Sean, like most good coachs, use to build the playbook based on the talent he had, not a system...

With regards to injuries, the best teams overcome them, and the Saints did during regular season...

Based on the last four post-seasons, it seems to be more of a post-season mental block that starts at the top of the organization...
Could be JP. But I think you are dismissing the injury factor when it comes down to playoff teams. I’m not going to beat the dead horse again about how healthy Tampa was on O bs how banged up the Saints were. If you want to pigeonhole that as Us not being able to throw a long ball then good for you. But if you don’t think that most of the reason we lost to the SB champs after beating them twice in the regular season was because they were healthier than we were I simply disagree.
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Could be JP. But I think you are dismissing the injury factor when it comes down to playoff teams. I’m not going to beat the dead horse again about how healthy Tampa was on O bs how banged up the Saints were. If you want to pigeonhole that as Us not being able to throw a long ball then good for you. But if you don’t think that most of the reason we lost to the SB champs after beating them twice in the regular season was because they were healthier than we were I simply disagree.
I'm right there with you, Boston. I have mentioned luck before when it comes to winning championships. We unfortunately were missing key players in the post season (Taysom and Murray) and had our hall of fame QB suffering from the affect of a torn rotator cuff, a facia injury, and the after affects of eleven rib fractures and some people will lament about our not passing down field. No sh!t, Sherlock!

I understand some people have issues with the management of this franchise ... no, wait, I do not understand it, but I do recognize that they do seem to readily place all blame for everything in that direction.

Sometimes things just don't work out. It is as simple as that.

Sorry for hijacking your post, Boston.

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I'm right there with you, Boston. I have mentioned luck before when it comes to winning championships. We unfortunately were missing key players in the post season (Taysom and Murray) and had our hall of fame QB suffering from the affect of a torn rotator cuff, a facia injury, and the after affects of eleven rib fractures and some people will lament about our not passing down field. No sh!t, Sherlock!

I understand some people have issues with the management of this franchise ... no, wait, I do not understand it, but I do recognize that they do seem to readily place all blame for everything in that direction.

Sometimes things just don't work out. It is as simple as that.

Sorry for hijacking your post, Boston.
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Could be JP. But I think you are dismissing the injury factor when it comes down to playoff teams. I’m not going to beat the dead horse again about how healthy Tampa was on O bs how banged up the Saints were. If you want to pigeonhole that as Us not being able to throw a long ball then good for you. But if you don’t think that most of the reason we lost to the SB champs after beating them twice in the regular season was because they were healthier than we were I simply disagree.
We lost to the SB champs bc of four turnovers. 1 fumble, 3 int’s. That’s why.

Plain & Simple. All teams are banged up come championship month.
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We lost to the SB champs bc of four turnovers. 1 fumble, 3 int’s. That’s why.

Plain & Simple. All teams are banged up come championship month.
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We lost to the SB champs bc of four turnovers. 1 fumble, 3 int’s. That’s why.

Plain & Simple. All teams are banged up come championship month.
But some are banged up at different degrees. Tampa Bay was fortunate (lucky) that they came into the playoff at their healthiest, while we came into our game with them missing several of our key players and losing others during the game. Had we been at full compliment maybe Jared Cook would not have been placed into the situation to create two of those turnovers and we, perhaps, wouldn't have been in the position to be forcing the ball once behind to produce the others.

Had Brees not been dealing with injuries of his own I seriously expect we would have won that game handily once again. And don't give me that "injury isn't an excuse" malarkey. Injuries can be and often are the "reason" for subpar play. That is a fact. Teams lose all the time for many various reasons. Injuries are one of the most prominent of those reasons as it is one of the most difficult to overcome. It can even be near impossible given the circumstances.

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But some are banged up at different degrees. Tampa Bay was fortunate (lucky) that they came into the playoff at their healthiest, while we came into our game with them missing several of our key players and losing others during the game. Had we been at full compliment maybe Jared Cook would not have been placed into the situation to create two of those turnovers and we, perhaps, wouldn't have been in the position to be forcing the ball once behind to produce the others.

Had Brees not been dealing with injuries of his own I seriously expect we would have won that game handily once again. And don't give me that "injury isn't an excuse" malarkey. Injuries can be and often are the "reason" for subpar play. That is a fact. Teams lose all the time for many various reasons. Injuries are one of the most prominent of those reasons as it is one of the most difficult to overcome. It can even be near impossible given the circumstances.
Fournette was on and off the injury report all year long. Godwin had his health issues. Tom Brady had knee surgery immediately following the season’s end. All teams are banged up to a certain degree. Give Tom Brady 4 turnovers, and you’re going to lose that game.

1 fumble

3 int’s..., they were ALL terrible throws. The int’s were ALL Drew Brees, bad throws, all of them. Yes, the fumble was painful..., but so were the three interceptions. Do I think losing players during the game contributed? Yes. But all teams deal with injuries throughout the season and inside of each game. Next man up..., and adapt to the circumstances you have, not the one you wished, or hoped, or had luck prevailed, or been fortunate enough, to have.

Score was 20-20, after Drew’s first interception AND the ensuing TB touchdown from Cook’s fumble.

Put the ball in Drew’s hands, what happened?

1st possession:
PUNT (and a beautiful 55 yarder by Morestead I might add!), Time of Possession - 1:38, 5 plays 12 yards, 1 First Down due to penalty, 1 rush attempt

2nd possession:
INT#2, Time of Possession - 2:44, 5 plays, 13 yards, 1 passing First Down, 1 rush attempt

3rd (final) possession:
INT#3, Time of Possession - 0.40, 4 plays, 10 yards, 1 rushing First down, 1 rush attempt.

Bottom line, Drew Brees had his chances to move the ball, but was unable to do it, as evidenced by his 134 passing yards total for the entire game.
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