Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson

03-10-2021, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Or maybe he was confused with the recruitment/signing talk of we want to stretch the field, and we were unable to deliver the ball (i.e. air-yards) down the field?

Point being, we did not use Emmanuel Sanders to his strengths - and Sean, like most good coachs, use to build the playbook based on the talent he had, not a system...

With regards to injuries, the best teams overcome them, and the Saints did during regular season...

Based on the last four post-seasons, it seems to be more of a post-season mental block that starts at the top of the organization...

Could be JP. But I think you are dismissing the injury factor when it comes down to playoff teams. I’m not going to beat the dead horse again about how healthy Tampa was on O bs how banged up the Saints were. If you want to pigeonhole that as Us not being able to throw a long ball then good for you. But if you don’t think that most of the reason we lost to the SB champs after beating them twice in the regular season was because they were healthier than we were I simply disagree.

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2021, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Could be JP. But I think you are dismissing the injury factor when it comes down to playoff teams. I’m not going to beat the dead horse again about how healthy Tampa was on O bs how banged up the Saints were. If you want to pigeonhole that as Us not being able to throw a long ball then good for you. But if you don’t think that most of the reason we lost to the SB champs after beating them twice in the regular season was because they were healthier than we were I simply disagree.

I'm right there with you, Boston. I have mentioned luck before when it comes to winning championships. We unfortunately were missing key players in the post season (Taysom and Murray) and had our hall of fame QB suffering from the affect of a torn rotator cuff, a facia injury, and the after affects of eleven rib fractures and some people will lament about our not passing down field. No sh!t, Sherlock!

I understand some people have issues with the management of this franchise ... no, wait, I do not understand it, but I do recognize that they do seem to readily place all blame for everything in that direction.

Sometimes things just don't work out. It is as simple as that.

Sorry for hijacking your post, Boston.

Boston Saint · 03-10-2021, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm right there with you, Boston. I have mentioned luck before when it comes to winning championships. We unfortunately were missing key players in the post season (Taysom and Murray) and had our hall of fame QB suffering from the affect of a torn rotator cuff, a facia injury, and the after affects of eleven rib fractures and some people will lament about our not passing down field. No sh!t, Sherlock!

I understand some people have issues with the management of this franchise ... no, wait, I do not understand it, but I do recognize that they do seem to readily place all blame for everything in that direction.

Sometimes things just don't work out. It is as simple as that.

Sorry for hijacking your post, Boston.

Hijack away !

neugey · 03-10-2021, 08:11 PM

Sanders was a luxury to take our offense over the top and be really dominant. But it didn't work out with Thomas' injury issues. We can't afford him anymore, but at least we tried.

st thomas · 03-10-2021, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Emmanuel Sanders was good in New Orleans. Unfortunately, he wasn't effectively used as we would have liked down field.

I'd argue the only time he caught anything deep was when Taysom was under center. In 14 games he had over 800 yards, 5 TD's and 33 1st downs by receptions. Reliable hands, good locker room guy and was a mentor.

It is what it is though. Good luck with his next team.

I think trequon had 4 tds and a 14 yd avg , he stayed relatively healthy so may be looking up for him
Or not we can save 2million plus on cutting him
Or not he he

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st thomas · 03-10-2021, 09:09 PM

Drew Brees was locked in on Marquez Calloway he was rolling till the ankle got bummed up. Then Drew got riuzed and we know the rest of the story

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gosaints1 · 03-10-2021, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Could be JP. But I think you are dismissing the injury factor when it comes down to playoff teams. I’m not going to beat the dead horse again about how healthy Tampa was on O bs how banged up the Saints were. If you want to pigeonhole that as Us not being able to throw a long ball then good for you. But if you don’t think that most of the reason we lost to the SB champs after beating them twice in the regular season was because they were healthier than we were I simply disagree.

We lost to the SB champs bc of four turnovers. 1 fumble, 3 int’s. That’s why.

Plain & Simple. All teams are banged up come championship month.

jeanpierre · 03-11-2021, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

We lost to the SB champs bc of four turnovers. 1 fumble, 3 int’s. That’s why.

Plain & Simple. All teams are banged up come championship month.

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AsylumGuido · 03-11-2021, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

We lost to the SB champs bc of four turnovers. 1 fumble, 3 int’s. That’s why.

Plain & Simple. All teams are banged up come championship month.

But some are banged up at different degrees. Tampa Bay was fortunate (lucky) that they came into the playoff at their healthiest, while we came into our game with them missing several of our key players and losing others during the game. Had we been at full compliment maybe Jared Cook would not have been placed into the situation to create two of those turnovers and we, perhaps, wouldn't have been in the position to be forcing the ball once behind to produce the others.

Had Brees not been dealing with injuries of his own I seriously expect we would have won that game handily once again. And don't give me that "injury isn't an excuse" malarkey. Injuries can be and often are the "reason" for subpar play. That is a fact. Teams lose all the time for many various reasons. Injuries are one of the most prominent of those reasons as it is one of the most difficult to overcome. It can even be near impossible given the circumstances.

03-10-2021, 04:52 PM	#21
Threaded by Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,879 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by jeanpierre Or maybe he was confused with the recruitment/signing talk of we want to stretch the field, and we were unable to deliver the ball (i.e. air-yards) down the field? Point being, we did not use Emmanuel Sanders to his strengths - and Sean, like most good coachs, use to build the playbook based on the talent he had, not a system... With regards to injuries, the best teams overcome them, and the Saints did during regular season... Based on the last four post-seasons, it seems to be more of a post-season mental block that starts at the top of the organization... Could be JP. But I think you are dismissing the injury factor when it comes down to playoff teams. I’m not going to beat the dead horse again about how healthy Tampa was on O bs how banged up the Saints were. If you want to pigeonhole that as Us not being able to throw a long ball then good for you. But if you don’t think that most of the reason we lost to the SB champs after beating them twice in the regular season was because they were healthier than we were I simply disagree. MatthewT, AsylumGuido and SaintGnome like this.
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03-10-2021, 05:08 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,409	Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by Boston Saint Could be JP. But I think you are dismissing the injury factor when it comes down to playoff teams. I’m not going to beat the dead horse again about how healthy Tampa was on O bs how banged up the Saints were. If you want to pigeonhole that as Us not being able to throw a long ball then good for you. But if you don’t think that most of the reason we lost to the SB champs after beating them twice in the regular season was because they were healthier than we were I simply disagree. I'm right there with you, Boston. I have mentioned luck before when it comes to winning championships. We unfortunately were missing key players in the post season (Taysom and Murray) and had our hall of fame QB suffering from the affect of a torn rotator cuff, a facia injury, and the after affects of eleven rib fractures and some people will lament about our not passing down field. No sh!t, Sherlock! I understand some people have issues with the management of this franchise ... no, wait, I do not understand it, but I do recognize that they do seem to readily place all blame for everything in that direction. Sometimes things just don't work out. It is as simple as that. Sorry for hijacking your post, Boston.
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03-10-2021, 05:21 PM	#23
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,879	Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm right there with you, Boston. I have mentioned luck before when it comes to winning championships. We unfortunately were missing key players in the post season (Taysom and Murray) and had our hall of fame QB suffering from the affect of a torn rotator cuff, a facia injury, and the after affects of eleven rib fractures and some people will lament about our not passing down field. No sh!t, Sherlock! I understand some people have issues with the management of this franchise ... no, wait, I do not understand it, but I do recognize that they do seem to readily place all blame for everything in that direction. Sometimes things just don't work out. It is as simple as that. Sorry for hijacking your post, Boston. Hijack away !

03-10-2021, 08:11 PM	#24
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver \| Luke Johnson Sanders was a luxury to take our offense over the top and be really dominant. But it didn't work out with Thomas' injury issues. We can't afford him anymore, but at least we tried. Boston Saint likes this.

03-10-2021, 08:57 PM	#25
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by K Major Emmanuel Sanders was good in New Orleans. Unfortunately, he wasn't effectively used as we would have liked down field. I'd argue the only time he caught anything deep was when Taysom was under center. In 14 games he had over 800 yards, 5 TD's and 33 1st downs by receptions. Reliable hands, good locker room guy and was a mentor. It is what it is though. Good luck with his next team. I think trequon had 4 tds and a 14 yd avg , he stayed relatively healthy so may be looking up for him Or not we can save 2million plus on cutting him Or not he he Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rugby Saint II likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by gosaints1 We lost to the SB champs bc of four turnovers. 1 fumble, 3 int’s. That’s why. Plain & Simple. All teams are banged up come championship month.

03-11-2021, 07:43 AM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,409	Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver \| Luke Johnson Originally Posted by gosaints1 We lost to the SB champs bc of four turnovers. 1 fumble, 3 int’s. That’s why. Plain & Simple. All teams are banged up come championship month. But some are banged up at different degrees. Tampa Bay was fortunate (lucky) that they came into the playoff at their healthiest, while we came into our game with them missing several of our key players and losing others during the game. Had we been at full compliment maybe Jared Cook would not have been placed into the situation to create two of those turnovers and we, perhaps, wouldn't have been in the position to be forcing the ball once behind to produce the others. Had Brees not been dealing with injuries of his own I seriously expect we would have won that game handily once again. And don't give me that "injury isn't an excuse" malarkey. Injuries can be and often are the "reason" for subpar play. That is a fact. Teams lose all the time for many various reasons. Injuries are one of the most prominent of those reasons as it is one of the most difficult to overcome. It can even be near impossible given the circumstances.
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