Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy”

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2021, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'm pulling for the young guy but I've got my reservations. Smash said earlier that Winston has had eye surgery and a year with Drew and Sean working on his weaknesses and I hope it pays off. But in the back of my mind he's still the same guy we laughed at before for his decision making. I hope he proves me wrong.

Regardless of improvement, there's no way he isn't a huge step down from one who was among the best to ever play the game. We've been spoiled.

The Dude · 03-15-2021, 06:24 PM

Winston is the youngest player out there that has the potential to become our franchise Qb. He won’t be a Drew Brees, we won’t see a player like him in our lifetime but Winston can win us a Super Bowl if he can cut out the interceptions. He’s our best bet.

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2021, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Winston is the youngest player out there that has the potential to become our franchise Qb. He won’t be a Drew Brees, we won’t see a player like him in our lifetime but Winston can win us a Super Bowl if he can cut out the interceptions. He’s our best bet.

If we had our entire roster back I might entertain the idea briefly, but we are going to be a shell of what we were on both sides of the ball. He has the potential to be our QB, but given the "franchise" interpretation I use we have only had two of those in our history ... and, no, Bobby wasn't one of them.

The Dude · 03-15-2021, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If anyone else out there has any confidence that Winston could be a starter for them then the Saints will be unable to match any reasonable deal.

Wrong again. This must be killing you.

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2021, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Wrong again. This must be killing you.

Nope. Not wrong. I said if anyone else thought he was worthy we couldn't sign him. Obviously nobody else wanted him. We signed him for WAY below market value for a lowest end starter. Still only three wrongs ever, Dude. Eons away from matching your growing total. He's dirt cheap and still needs to earn a start and I'll still not be wrong if he does. I hope he does pan out.

Rell&Gold · 03-16-2021, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'd like to see the Saints actually develop a QB from the draft.

Payton is a great coach but he really lucked out with Brees, I'd be interested to see what he could do with a rookie at the helm.

He lucked out by getting the QB he was pursuing?

TheOak · 03-16-2021, 05:03 AM

Everyone should want Winston to be “competing to be that guy”, I want every available QB “competing to be that guy”. That’s how to put the best talent available on the field.

TheOak · 03-16-2021, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If anyone else out there has any confidence that Winston could be a starter for them then the Saints will be unable to match any reasonable deal.

Hardly a distinction for Wilson, the same thing can be said for each and every player we have resigned or will sign this season outside of draft picks.

K Major · 03-16-2021, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Winston is the youngest player out there that has the potential to become our franchise Qb. He won’t be a Drew Brees, we won’t see a player like him in our lifetime but Winston can win us a Super Bowl if he can cut out the interceptions. He’s our best bet.

Right and that's the thing. It won't matter who is under center in NO. Most will have unrealistic expectations that the next QB must perform like Brees. Passing the torch from one HOF (Montana/Young) to another is rare.

I'm excited to see what JW can do in this system with Payton. The tools are there with weapons around.

Rugby Saint II · 03-16-2021, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Right and that's the thing. It won't matter who is under center in NO. Most will have unrealistic expectations that the next QB must perform like Brees. Passing the torch from one HOF (Montana/Young) to another is rare.

I'm excited to see what JW can do in this system with Payton. The tools are there with weapons around.

That's it! We have to temper our expectations and then see how the team does in the next couple of years. Drew has spoiled us without a doubt.

03-15-2021, 06:19 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'm pulling for the young guy but I've got my reservations. Smash said earlier that Winston has had eye surgery and a year with Drew and Sean working on his weaknesses and I hope it pays off. But in the back of my mind he's still the same guy we laughed at before for his decision making. I hope he proves me wrong. Regardless of improvement, there's no way he isn't a huge step down from one who was among the best to ever play the game. We've been spoiled.

03-15-2021, 06:24 PM	#12
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Winston is the youngest player out there that has the potential to become our franchise Qb. He won’t be a Drew Brees, we won’t see a player like him in our lifetime but Winston can win us a Super Bowl if he can cut out the interceptions. He’s our best bet.
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03-15-2021, 06:30 PM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Originally Posted by The Dude Winston is the youngest player out there that has the potential to become our franchise Qb. He won’t be a Drew Brees, we won’t see a player like him in our lifetime but Winston can win us a Super Bowl if he can cut out the interceptions. He’s our best bet. If we had our entire roster back I might entertain the idea briefly, but we are going to be a shell of what we were on both sides of the ball. He has the potential to be our QB, but given the "franchise" interpretation I use we have only had two of those in our history ... and, no, Bobby wasn't one of them.

03-15-2021, 09:26 PM	#14
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If anyone else out there has any confidence that Winston could be a starter for them then the Saints will be unable to match any reasonable deal. Wrong again. This must be killing you.
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03-15-2021, 09:32 PM	#15
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Originally Posted by The Dude Wrong again. This must be killing you. Nope. Not wrong. I said if anyone else thought he was worthy we couldn't sign him. Obviously nobody else wanted him. We signed him for WAY below market value for a lowest end starter. Still only three wrongs ever, Dude. Eons away from matching your growing total. He's dirt cheap and still needs to earn a start and I'll still not be wrong if he does. I hope he does pan out.

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03-16-2021, 03:16 AM	#16
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'd like to see the Saints actually develop a QB from the draft. Payton is a great coach but he really lucked out with Brees, I'd be interested to see what he could do with a rookie at the helm. He lucked out by getting the QB he was pursuing?

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Everyone should want Winston to be “competing to be that guy”, I want every available QB “competing to be that guy”. That’s how to put the best talent available on the field. Budsdrinker, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

03-16-2021, 05:06 AM	#18
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If anyone else out there has any confidence that Winston could be a starter for them then the Saints will be unable to match any reasonable deal. Hardly a distinction for Wilson, the same thing can be said for each and every player we have resigned or will sign this season outside of draft picks.

03-16-2021, 09:15 AM	#19
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Originally Posted by The Dude Winston is the youngest player out there that has the potential to become our franchise Qb. He won’t be a Drew Brees, we won’t see a player like him in our lifetime but Winston can win us a Super Bowl if he can cut out the interceptions. He’s our best bet. Right and that's the thing. It won't matter who is under center in NO. Most will have unrealistic expectations that the next QB must perform like Brees. Passing the torch from one HOF (Montana/Young) to another is rare. I'm excited to see what JW can do in this system with Payton. The tools are there with weapons around. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Sean Payton wants to see Jameis Winston “competing to be that guy” Originally Posted by K Major Right and that's the thing. It won't matter who is under center in NO. Most will have unrealistic expectations that the next QB must perform like Brees. Passing the torch from one HOF (Montana/Young) to another is rare. I'm excited to see what JW can do in this system with Payton. The tools are there with weapons around. That's it! We have to temper our expectations and then see how the team does in the next couple of years. Drew has spoiled us without a doubt.