Honest Question about Peat.
 

So, as Saints fans (GEAUX), I am always rooting for our players on the field. For example, I pull for, and believe that a guy like Peat can improve and be worthy of the contract he has (young folk don’t remember what faith us old timers had to have back in the 70’s). So, that being said, what facet of his game does he need to improve on most?

Run blocking or Pass blocking?

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

His balance. The guy ends up on his butt sooo much.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

So, to me that would indicate he is better at moving forward and run blocking in your opinion as that requires less “ Finesse“ and balance than pass blocking. Is that accurate?

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Yeah I think that’s about right. He’s really good as a pulling guard getting to the second level. Ask him to pass block against good DT’s though and it’s a nightmare.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Right on. Thanks for your thoughts. Since his contract dictates him being part of the team I’m interested to see what others think other than that he sucks. I would think in general that pass blocking is more difficult
At the NFL level than run blocking, but I’m sure there are exceptions. Your point about pulling is interesting. Was he called for a lot of penalties do you know.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Starting off the top, I will not address injuries, no one can control those. Otherwise IMO there are five or six people on every message board that target their ire on specific players for lack of new rings. Just like we have our favorites we also have our unfavors (isn't a word, don't care will use it anyways, call it a sniglet for those old enough to remember that meaning) the most popular recent unfavors are Peat and Anzalone. Usually these posters ignore the body of their work and instead call them "garbage", "useless", and other unflattering/demeaning descriptions for not making every play, or having a bad game against world class opponents. "why couldn't O-lineman stop Suh /Barrett?! Garbage player!" "why couldn't our LB shut down the best TE's in the game when almost no one in the game can?" If Peat was a turnstile how did we have the last four seasons? Hyperbole IMO.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

According to Pro Football Reference he was only called for 2 holding penalties and 2 false starts last season.

You have to understand... fans are biased against Peat because he replaced Carl Nicks. Peat is nowhere as good as Nicks.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Too true Rugs.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Makes sense Chris. I have my own thoughts, but I wanted to hear other thoughts before I put my 2 cents in.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Peat was also a LT in college. I don’t recall off the top of my head if he ever even had any experience at guard in college. When we drafted him we planned on playing him at RT to be the eventual replacement for Zach Strief. He did so poorly there in OTA’s and training camp that he ended up at LG. He just simply doesn’t have the anchor or strength to play guard.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

His balance and heart went out the window, I am afraid, since I witnessed him not even make the conditioning drill at Yulman Stadium a couple of years back. It was utterly embarrassing how he was trotting, if you can call it that, as he was getting lapped by his teammates. I am afraid he may have succumbed to the magical temptation of too many Popeyes fired chicken sammiches. It is still a mystery how he wrangled a new contract from SP. Maybe it's because there weren't quality alternatives in FA. Maybe because he can play multiple spots. Brees' quick release made him look better, not that Brees never got pressure up the middle. We're fixing to find out whether Jameis or Taysom can get out from the pressure that's sure to come from Peat's missed assignments.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

I think peat was drafted as a tackle, well tackle failed and he still pouting like a 2 year old if u ask me


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Your optimism is admirable and there is no 'but' about it.

You are asking a question that for a lineman, especially pass blocking is not just about improvement. Peat's battle will be with his physics and his health.

When Peat was good, he was good.

This is what my limited time playing line (7 years both side of the ball, T and G) tells me about Peat.
- He is stronger on run plays, in particular screen and trap blocking.Losing 15 pounds last off season helped his speed.
- Pass blocking for him has become a liability and for a team that is either heavy pass or balanced that means you have a liability on the line for at least 50% of your plays. Losing 15 pounds last off season really hurt him here, this is where the physics plays in. What happened is that losing weight made him more 'moveable' and he knows this so he leans in to offset the mass reduction which puts him off balance and easier to swim by. This is why he looks like he misses blocks or is laying on the ground a good bit.

Peat has an odd injury history for a lineman as he doesn't seem to have joint issues, but rather bone breakage issues and muscle tears. Broken fingers are common for linemen but forearms on an offensive lineman are definitely not, pair that with broken leg, torn pectoral and it looks like his body can handle the impact, just not the stress. I suspect the weight loss was to minimize the risk of future broken legs and high ankle sprains.

Peat has not played in more than 13 games since 2017 reinforcing that he has more physical limitations than skill limitations.

I know that there are some fans that always want to see their preferred players on the field but outside of that I believe that fans generally want a player to not only meet his contract value but exceed it because that is where the value is.

Peat has played Guard in the NFL for 6 years and made the Pro bowl for three of them so I don't see how what he played in college matters. Lineman in the NFL can be fairly universal fit with the exception of C and DE.

:bng:

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Thanks for your thoughts Oak.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Well, as a Stanford grad, he has the smarts to play LT, if that's he was drafted to be. The fact that he's failed to start full time at LT either speaks volumes for his lack of talent or maybe points to Armstead working out as a better talent, coming out or a smallish Arky university no less. The problem we continue to have, although a little less so recently, is Armstead's fragility in terms of staying healthy. It's time to unearth new 3rd round gems to replace both Armstead and Peat. Jeff Ireland, are you hearing us?

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Peat was coming off a broken fibula and a high ankle sprain that placed him on injured reserve on January 10, 2018. Would you expect him to be in top physical condition by that August? It had nothing to do with Popeyes, but everything to do with the inability to train properly in the offseason. The broken arm he suffered in 2019 set him back again. The first offseason he had the chance to train properly was in 2020 and he came into camp the fittest of his career having dropped 15 pounds and much more defined.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Guido, The first time that I saw him I was shocked. He looked just like the Pillsbury dough boy. He's just built soft...not built solid. He has never looked the part of a top NFL O-lineman which is supposed to be muscular.

Oh, he stinks at pass protection because he is always on the ground unless he's moving to throw a block. His only good trait is that he is a good pulling guard and blocks fairly well in space. His problem is that for a guard he doesn't win a fist fight in the phone booth.(limited space)

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Shanlie and Strief come to mind.
As far as Peat goes showing up in shape would be a good start. It would help his balance, ability to keep pass rushers off balance, and could possibly help him stay healthy.
All in all Peat gets a bad wrap. His worse games come when players like Armstead go down. His fat contract just adds fuel to the hate
Fire.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

A professional athlete recovering from serious injuries. Many professional athletes wouldn't have even been able to suit up by August, not to mention be in game shape after extended down time due to the recovery process.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

I appreciate everyone’s input. It’s an interesting discussion. I knew this would be a worthwhile thread to start! Again, the underlying premise of this is not attack him and his character. Just to cogitate (one of my favorite words BTW) on how the team can succeed from here.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

No crap. He was injured. Have you ever tried doing cardio work with a broken leg and a high ankle sprain? No doubt you'd come in over-weight and out of shape.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

There are a number of members here than cannot avoid attacking Peat and his character. It's beyond frustrating. It's as though dwelling on negatives from past is more satisfying than looking to the future.

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

To me it falls on the issue that he was born on November 4th...that makes him a Scorpio! Don’t get me started on Scorpios 🤪!

Re: Honest Question about Peat.
 

I love buffet peat, he’s my hero y’all I just clown him to clown he’s a saint and I have to support him. [emoji15]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk