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Boston Saint 04-06-2021 05:20 PM
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I guess I just can’t agree calling a Heisman winning, number one overall pick, 5000 yard season passer who has never had a season with more INTs than TDs and beat the Saints asses as a rookie “Trash”. He has more credentials than Brees had when he came to the Saints....FACT.

jnormand 04-06-2021 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 917752)
I guess I just can’t agree calling a Heisman winning, number one overall pick, 5000 yard season passer who has never had a season with more INTs than TDs and beat the Saints asses as a rookie “Trash”. He has more credentials than Brees had when he came to the Saints....FACT.
Um...fair points Boston. But I wouldn't use "beat the Saint's asses as a rookie" as a point. That list is long and full of garbage QBs that the Saints defense made look like HOFers! Lol! Or use Brees and Winston in the same sentence. lol.

Damn...some of you guys act like Winston is bangin your sister and buys you candy to keep you happy!

Bahahaha!

But seriously bro, we'll all see what he brings to the table this season. If anything, pepes on both sides of the aisle here should have their crow gumbo ready to go. Because someone is gonna be wrong. And someone is gonna be right!

halloween 65 04-06-2021 05:50 PM
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Add a good TE to the mix, and he cuts the int.'s in half and I'm sold. The guy has a good deep ball and can run.

Boston Saint 04-06-2021 06:07 PM
Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total
 
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 917756)
Um...fair points Boston. But I wouldn't use "beat the Saint's asses as a rookie" as a point. That list is long and full of garbage QBs that the Saints defense made look like HOFers! Lol! Or use Brees and Winston in the same sentence. lol.

Damn...some of you guys act like Winston is bangin your sister and buys you candy to keep you happy!

Bahahaha!

But seriously bro, we'll all see what he brings to the table this season. If anything, pepes on both sides of the aisle here should have their crow gumbo ready to go. Because someone is gonna be wrong. And someone is gonna be right!
Except I (and others) aren’t making any predictions at all. I’m questioning the “He sucks so don’t give him a chance” narrative that VD and others are pushing without reason. His performance so far as an NFL QB indicates otherwise. It is not possible to make a pro bowl, throw for 5 grand and 30+ TDs in a season and be a “Trash” player.

gosaints1 04-06-2021 06:31 PM
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I asked 100 random female Saints fans what their favorite shampoo was. The overwhelming reply:

“Get the eff out of my shower jackwad!”

I’m not a fan of Jameis’ personality, it hits me in the wrong places, but I think he’ll be just fine as a Saints passer, if he has learned how to be a better game manager from one of the best game managers to have ever suited up, for any team.

Me? I’m excited to see what the young man can do.

AsylumGuido 04-06-2021 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 917692)
Grandstanding or just outright annoying people. That sounds more accurate then optimism. Either that or blindly believing in something to the point that they can't see fault. Which is probably more the case.

It's an ongoing and rampant issue with humanity right now. Especially in many facets of Amercian society.
Man, you are a hater, huh?

The Dude 04-06-2021 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 917708)
Yeah but that team also had Rankins,Hendrickson,JackRabbit etc

As it stands right now

WR 2 Tre'Quan Smith
CB 2 Patrick Robinson

Then look at the 3rd string LB,DE and DT

This isn't the roster of the past 3 or 4 years.
Plenty of time to add some pieces but its not like there is a big pit of money to do it with.
Exactly. I don’t think we had to play from behind in any of those games. Defense and special teams held the lead. We have lost key players to both.
Even if we had Brees when he was in his prime I think we would still struggle with our current roster.
We could get lucky in the draft, players could step up, and we could strike gold with an UDFA. Highly unlikely though.

voodooido 04-06-2021 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 917751)
Not true. He had offers from other teams he turned down. Another sign of your unwarranted evaluation of him.
Can you back this up? I haven’t seen any other offers

Boston Saint 04-06-2021 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 917776)
Can you back this up? I haven’t seen any other offers
Here is one example report:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/saintsw...ract-news/amp/

subguy 04-06-2021 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 917733)
... after they abandoned Arians' offense and went with Brady's. Not to mention the fact that Brady may be the best QB to ever play the game. I'm no fan of Winston's either, but to say he's trash is simply incorrect. He could easily start for half the teams in the league.
This is true, but unfortunate we may in that 1/2 of the teams that may have to endure him starting. I will gladly admit I am wrong about being skeptical of Winston if he proves other wise. Hill or Winston, two mediocre options for the Saints. This has nothing to do with athletic ability, both have that.

subguy 04-06-2021 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917736)
^^^^

IMO Jameis gives the Saints the best chance in 2021.

He has the pedigree, but simply lacked the maturity. Dude changed his diet, got married, had eye surgery & signed a minimum contract. JW wanted to sit back and learn from Brees for a complete season. All those signs point to a player that should improve.

If Jameis can throw for 4k, 25TDs & limit the INTs we all are contenders in the post season.

Personally I think he can keep us as contenders but hey that's just me. Can't wait for 2021 season. Lol, the NFL is hard.

By the way, you aren't playing QB in Sean Payton's system unless you are sharp. JW is a very intelligent young man.

Que, sera sera.
He gives us the best chance of the options we have, we only have one other.

Rugby Saint II 04-07-2021 01:46 PM
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When your starting QB is playing for league minimum on a prove it deal meanwhile his competition plays best anywhere else on the field besides QB has a tendency that leaves me less than excited for the season. Optimistic? Oh, hell yeah! :bng:


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