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iceshack149 04-09-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 917925)
I guess he is gluten free


It's a bit of a running joke currently.


https://blackandgold.com/saints/1003...ghlight=gluten

SmashMouth 04-09-2021 10:46 AM

Re: PFF Draft Simulator
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 917936)
I gave it a shot.


One can play with the parameters and get crazy unlikely results... like the one below.

https://blackandgold.com/u/4976-albu...icture1435.png

lee909 04-09-2021 01:39 PM

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made a slight change to the parameters by pushing the picks 1 slot up to PFF rankings from fans.

Greg Newsome went in the top 14 so i jumped to 16 to get Jayce Horn
They really mark you down giving away future picks which assuming you pick in the last few picks of the 2nd doesn't make sense.


Anyway

Saints Trade 28,105 and 2022 2nd Rounder for Arizona 16 and 160

R1.16 Jayce Horn CB
R2.60 Jabril Cox LB

Trade
Saints Trade R3.98 to Rams for R3.103 and R4 141

R3.103 Kendrick Green OG

Trade Saints trade 133 and 160 to Arizona for 105

R3 1.05 Jamin Davis LB


Trade Saints trade 141,218,229 to Texans for 109

R4.109 Milton Williams DT
R7.255 Josh Intatorbhebhe WR

Rugby Saint II 04-09-2021 03:29 PM

Re: PFF Draft Simulator
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917933)
Maybe. But it's a bust pick if you invest that much and don't put things in place to make it all work...

But great players, as should be drafted like that, are expected to elevate irregardless of who's in place...

And remember that the best players get drafted go to a crappy team with poor coaching and/or scheme fits. We have done well enough in the draft to have one of the best rosters for the last few years. This year we cleaned house and have plenty of room new faces.

AsylumGuido 04-09-2021 07:11 PM

Re: PFF Draft Simulator
 
Still waiting for the reasoning behind the motivation to pretend to draft. JP? K_Major? Smash? lee? Others?

:confused:

rezburna 04-09-2021 07:23 PM

Re: PFF Draft Simulator
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 917942)
made a slight change to the parameters by pushing the picks 1 slot up to PFF rankings from fans.

Greg Newsome went in the top 14 so i jumped to 16 to get Jayce Horn
They really mark you down giving away future picks which assuming you pick in the last few picks of the 2nd doesn't make sense.


Anyway

Saints Trade 28,105 and 2022 2nd Rounder for Arizona 16 and 160

R1.16 Jayce Horn CB
R2.60 Jabril Cox LB

Trade
Saints Trade R3.98 to Rams for R3.103 and R4 141

R3.103 Kendrick Green OG

Trade Saints trade 133 and 160 to Arizona for 105

R3 1.05 Jamin Davis LB


Trade Saints trade 141,218,229 to Texans for 109

R4.109 Milton Williams DT
R7.255 Josh Intatorbhebhe WR

Love what you did.

st thomas 04-09-2021 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 917924)
Well, when I correctly picked Akiem Hicks in the third round back in the day... I retired from doing mock drafts.

I considered that a win and left the "game" as a winner. :D


Well Fin, I wanted cooper kupp over Alvin Kamara. But of course I didn’t know we’re picking him either,


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iceshack149 04-10-2021 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 917978)
Still waiting for the reasoning behind the motivation to pretend to draft. JP? K_Major? Smash? lee? Others?

:confused:

How about this: Let the guys enjoy guessing what player ends up with the Saints in the offseason for their entertainment.

I honestly don't understand why you want to disrupt discussions by calling people out and being a miserable killjoy.

AsylumGuido 04-10-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 918000)
How about this: Let the guys enjoy guessing what player ends up with the Saints in the offseason for their entertainment.

I honestly don't understand why you want to disrupt discussions by calling people out and being a miserable killjoy.

How about I genuinely want to know? There's clearly some motivation. I know a lot of dedicated NFL fans that enjoy the draft day itself, but do not get into all the pre-draft stuff.

So is it like you said, guessing which player ends up being drafted for entertainment purposes? Is that your take on it?

Rugby Saint II 04-10-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 918001)
How about I genuinely want to know? There's clearly some motivation. I know a lot of dedicated NFL fans that enjoy the draft day itself, but do not get into all the pre-draft stuff.

So is it like you said, guessing which player ends up being drafted for entertainment purposes? Is that your take on it?

But...but....isn't that why you watch the NFL....for entertainment purposes? I read these to learn who are the top players out there that may fit the system because I want to be familiar with the pick if possible so I can build them up into my camp beast. My feeling is most people pick their favorite player for fit and scheme and then we discuss them in great depth at times...I like it!

Incidentally I rarely watch smug Godhell run the draft and hugging players like he really cares has me only clicking back and forth to see if we traded up.

AsylumGuido 04-10-2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 918003)
But...but....isn't that why you watch the NFL....for entertainment purposes? I read these to learn who are the top players out there that may fit the system because I want to be familiar with the pick if possible so I can build them up into my camp beast. My feeling is most people pick their favorite player for fit and scheme and then we discuss them in great depth at times...I like it!

Incidentally I rarely watch smug Godhell run the draft and hugging players like he really cares has me only clicking back and forth to see if we traded up.

I try to learn as much as I can about the players we actually draft, or sign as UDFA's. I really don't care about the rookies that end up on other teams unless they end up getting a starting job and then it's for fantasy purposes. I guess it helps understand if one was actually into college ball to begin with. And, yes, I watch the NFL games for entertainment. That's why I would always want more games.

jnormand 04-10-2021 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917905)
Why does it bother you so much though? It's not a circus at all for me AG. I simply love the game of football & the Saints.

Living in Dallas, I've seen local kids up close and in person as early at 13/14 years old compete, many go on to college & a select few see their dreams become a reality on NFL draft day. Kyler Murray (Allen High), Myles Garrett - (Arlington Martin High), Matthew Stafford (Highland Park), Chase Daniels (Southlake), Solomon Thomas (Coppell) all good kids I've watch perform as teenagers become "big time" & NFL stars on Sundays.

My love of the sport has nothing to do with whether or not the Saints ultimately select them on draft day. I enjoy the interaction and opinions from others (Smash, JP, Rez, JNormand,Lee909,76, XVI, Rugs, Papz etc) on this board on scouting players, best "fit" & predictions on how they'll translate from college to the next level.

We don't have to wait for the "experts" predict who they think is best fit in the draft for the Saints ;).

Fun, healthy draft conversations.

Bro...Guido can't have a fun, healthy conversation. Bahahaha!!

I looked at this thread today and was like...wow it got pretty popular fast. Then I realized its because a trolling dbag came and ruined it for everyone. Lol!!

AsylumGuido 04-10-2021 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917905)
Why does it bother you so much though? It's not a circus at all for me AG. I simply love the game of football & the Saints.

Living in Dallas, I've seen local kids up close and in person as early at 13/14 years old compete, many go on to college & a select few see their dreams become a reality on NFL draft day. Kyler Murray (Allen High), Myles Garrett - (Arlington Martin High), Matthew Stafford (Highland Park), Chase Daniels (Southlake), Solomon Thomas (Coppell) all good kids I've watch perform as teenagers become "big time" & NFL stars on Sundays.

My love of the sport has nothing to do with whether or not the Saints ultimately select them on draft day. I enjoy the interaction and opinions from others (Smash, JP, Rez, JNormand,Lee909,76, XVI, Rugs, Papz etc) on this board on scouting players, best "fit" & predictions on how they'll translate from college to the next level.

We don't have to wait for the "experts" predict who they think is best fit in the draft for the Saints ;).

Fun, healthy draft conversations.

I missed this post while I was off to the Nashville honky-tonks. Thanks for the input, K! It doesn't bother me. I'm just curious because I have never got into it myself. I can clearly see your motivation with your explanation. With your interest in local youth football, high school, and college ball it makes sense. The only high school games I have seen were when my youngest played. He never played football before or after. It was baseball growing up before then and then music after. My older son swam through high school and into college.

I was seriously wondering where the motivation came from. I seems to me you are more interested in the players themselves more than attempting to figure out who you would want be be drafted by the Saints. It that correct?

I'm assuming the others that are into it have some sort of the same background and I can understand sharing that interest. Is this correct? Anyone else up to sharing their love of the pre-draft?

AsylumGuido 04-10-2021 04:29 PM

Re: PFF Draft Simulator
 
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Originally Posted by MarchingOn (Post 917912)
"I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment."

Not even the the notorious 2014 Draft?

Brandin Cooks, WR. 2014 Draft: First Round, 20th Overall: ...

Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB. 2014 Draft: Second Round, 58th Overall. (and passing on WR Landry when we needed one in a deep WR draft because we were silly and took only Cooks instead)

Khairi Fortt, LB. 2014 Draft: Fourth Round, 126th Overall: ...
Vinnie Sunseri, S. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 167th Overall: ...
Ronald Powell, OLB. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 169th Overall: ...
Tavon Rooks, OT.

None but Cooks even in the NFL. Got the entire Scouting Dept fired and brought use ireland. That's what disappointment does. Or, as Forrest Gump's momma would say, "Stupid is what Stupid does."

LOL! I never said that I have never been disappointed in the eventual results of a draft, MarchingOn. My reference to not being disappointed is that I don't have my mind set on certain players that I have spent time researching and hoping beyond hope that my team takes those players when the real kaka hits the fan. Some seem to take the picks personally and for some it seems to take years to recover if they don't match their expectations, if ever. ;)

That what I meant. I don't set my expectations so when the draft takes place I enjoy every pick and immediately start trying to find out about who we picked.

AsylumGuido 04-10-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 918010)
Bro...Guido can't have a fun, healthy conversation. Bahahaha!!

I looked at this thread today and was like...wow it got pretty popular fast. Then I realized its because a trolling dbag came and ruined it for everyone. Lol!!

Considering you claim to have blocked me you can entirely miss the point of my interest. But, keep that head stuck into the sand.

:D

AsylumGuido 04-10-2021 04:54 PM

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Okay, what about this? I got a "B"!

https://blackandgold.com/u/4973-albu...cture1437t.png

ChrisXVI 04-10-2021 05:30 PM

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You don’t care about the draft Guido like we don’t care about your son’s music career.

AsylumGuido 04-10-2021 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918016)
You don’t care about the draft Guido like we don’t care about your son’s music career.

I do care about the draft. When have I ever said I don't care? I can't wait to see who we draft. That and the free agency keep it going all year round.

:confused:

jnormand 04-10-2021 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918016)
You don’t care about the draft Guido like we don’t care about your son’s music career.

Pffffft bahahahaha!

You're killing me Chris!

AsylumGuido 04-10-2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 918020)
Pffffft bahahahaha!

You're killing me Chris!

Haters gonna hate. Two peas in a pod.

lee909 04-10-2021 07:10 PM

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Just having a bit of fun and trying something a bit different
Seems very unlikely,Giants would want more than a 2022 1st to move back from 11 to 28 but the simulation accepted it

Some of the same old names as that's the way it falls i guess

Trade
Saints R1.28 & 2022 R.1 For Giants R1.11

R1.11 QB Trey Lance
R2.60 OG Quinn Meinerz
R3.98 LB Jamin Davis
R3.105 CB Tay Gowan
R4.133 OG Kendrick Green

Trade Saints send 218/229 for Jets 146

R5.146 DT Bobby Brown III
R7.255 WR Josh Imatorbhebhe

Didn't like the Green pick after Meinerz but nobody else there and the value was too good

lee909 04-10-2021 07:36 PM

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Trade
Saints Received 14
Giants Received 28/R2 2022


14
Patrick Surtain II CB

60
Jabril Cox LB • LSU


Trade
Saints Received 62

Packers Received 98, 133,218


62
Marvin Wilson DI • Florida State


105
Jamin Davis LB • Kentucky


229
Elijah Mitchell HB • Louisiana


255
Josh Imatorbhebhe WR • Illinois

iceshack149 04-11-2021 11:35 AM

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Admittedly, I don't know these prospects. I used to buy the magazines and immerse myself in all things NFL but that was before children and politics.


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