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SmashMouth 04-30-2021 08:26 PM

Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
LB from THE Ohio St U.


papz 04-30-2021 08:31 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
We needed a linebacker badly and we got one. I think he'll surprise a lot of people.

I like it.

SmashMouth 04-30-2021 08:34 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 919661)
We needed a linebacker badly and we got one. I think he'll surprise a lot of people.

I like it.


Do you like it better than Jabril Cox of LSU?

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 08:35 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 919671)
Do you like it better than Jabril Cox of LSU?

Why not?

papz 04-30-2021 08:38 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 919671)
Do you like it better than Jabril Cox of LSU?

I try to stay away from giving my opinion on why an LSU player is better than the next guy. I prefer not to be labeled as having a bias.

I do believe Cox fits mold of the new breed linebackers needed in today's game.

SmashMouth 04-30-2021 08:41 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 919680)
I try to stay away from giving my opinion on why an LSU player is better than the next guy. I prefer not to be labeled as having a bias.

I do believe Cox fits mold of the new breed linebackers needed in today's game.

Rez said in the other thread that Werner is slow. Is Cox faster than Werner?

ChrisXVI 04-30-2021 08:43 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
Werner is a Sam LB in a league that doesn’t use Sam LB’s anymore.

K Major 04-30-2021 08:44 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
This isn't how you spell Jabrill Cox.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 08:44 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919689)
Werner is a Sam LB in a league that doesn’t use Sam LB’s anymore.

What make you think he's a Sam? Who defined him as such?

ChrisXVI 04-30-2021 08:45 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 919693)
What make you think he's a Sam?

Watching tape.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 08:46 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919694)
Watching tape.

So that's how he WAS used and not how he is planned to be used, right?

Was that tape from the future?

ChrisXVI 04-30-2021 08:48 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 919696)
So that's how he WAS used and not how he is planned to be used, right?

Was that tape from the future?

Yes. I watched tape from 2023.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 08:49 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919699)
Yes. I watched tape from 2023.

:D

Okay. That'll work.

ChrisXVI 04-30-2021 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 919700)
:D

Okay. That'll work.

Just messing with ya buddy. I don’t know anything. I don’t like taking this guy over Jabril Cox but I’m not in the draft room. I have no insight.

papz 04-30-2021 08:57 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 919684)
Rez said in the other thread that Werner is slow. Is Cox faster than Werner?

He ran a sub 4.6. Cox is a freak athletically so his straight line speed more than likely is faster. Werner is plenty fast enough for the position. He wouldn't be able to drop back in coverage and cover a WR like Cox would be able to. That said, I wouldn't want Cox doing that either... hell, any linebacker period. The odds wouldn't be in their favor and that would just be bad scheming.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 08:57 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919705)
Just messing with ya buddy. I don’t know anything. I don’t like taking this guy over Jabril Cox but I’m not in the draft room. I have no insight.

Why haven't anyone else taken Jabril Cox? There are 31 other teams, right?

ChrisXVI 04-30-2021 09:03 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 919709)
Why haven't anyone else taken Jabril Cox? There are 31 other teams, right?

Bingo. We know nothing.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 09:04 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919716)
Bingo. We know nothing.

If we wait we may be able to get him in the fourth round. For what, I'm not sure.

ChrisXVI 04-30-2021 09:07 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 919718)
If we wait we may be able to get him in the fourth round. For what, I'm not sure.

Yep, I’m pretty much done trying to predict this stuff.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 09:08 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919720)
Yep, I’m pretty much done trying to predict this stuff.

No one can because none of us have a clue.

SmashMouth 04-30-2021 09:29 PM

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hitta 04-30-2021 11:26 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
Day 2 was much better than Day 1.

JPPT1974 05-01-2021 01:10 AM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
Glad he is with the team. Needed a LB. And really needed one very bad. Welcome to the team!

SmashMouth 05-01-2021 08:03 AM

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K Major 05-01-2021 10:14 AM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 919815)

Hmm … these guys don't seem to be dialed in on him as a 2nd round selection huh?

Hopefully Werner is better than Anzalone & Baun. Especially taken that high in the draft.

iceshack149 05-01-2021 10:40 AM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 919830)
Hmm … these guys don't seem to be dialed in on him as a 2nd round selection huh?

Hopefully Werner is better than Anzalone & Baun. Especially taken that high in the draft.

The jury is still out on Baun, to be fair. No OTA's. Weird training camp.



And Anzalone... Big ol' tease.

ChrisXVI 05-01-2021 10:44 AM

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This guy is a two down Mike. I don’t get it. He’s essentially Anzalone without the hair.

SmashMouth 05-01-2021 11:08 AM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 919830)
Hmm … these guys don't seem to be dialed in on him as a 2nd round selection huh?

Hopefully Werner is better than Anzalone & Baun. Especially taken that high in the draft.

Well, they keep saying they keep underestimating him. He was the most productive LB of the group at THE Ohio St U, and he plays all three spots.

How does Luke Kuechly compare ?

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=8704
https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php...DraftYear=2021

Looks like the measurables are close. So do we have a Luke Kuechly on our hands since this dude is so smart?

Someone please remind me... was Luke Kuechly any good?

K Major 05-01-2021 01:11 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 919839)
Well, they keep saying they keep underestimating him. He was the most productive LB of the group at THE Ohio St U, and he plays all three spots.

How does Luke Kuechly compare ?

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=8704
https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php...DraftYear=2021

Looks like the measurables are close. So do we have a Luke Kuechly on our hands since this dude is so smart?

Someone please remind me... was Luke Kuechly any good?

Luke? I wouldn't go that far. I've read 4th/5th round grades on Werner. Eye ball test for me is meh. If he becomes a force I will say I'm wrong.

It's well past due for the Saints to hit on drafting a linebacker. It's been decades now …

AsylumGuido 05-01-2021 01:22 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 919866)
Luke? I wouldn't go that far. I've read 4th/5th round grades on Werner. Eye ball test for me is meh. If he becomes a force I will say I'm wrong.

It's well past due for the Saints to hit on drafting a linebacker. It's been decades now …

Once again, the real people making the real picks are what determines the draft order. Not some outsider coming up with their order. If a team has 8 picks in the first three rounds and none after do they ignore a player they have targeted since before the draft because Mel McShay has him as a 5th rounder?

Does that make sense?

FinSaint 05-01-2021 01:35 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
I still have high hopes for Baun, and I hope he along with Davis and now Werner will become a strenght of the defense.

...but to be honest I was a Shanle, Lofton and Anzalone apologist.

ChrisXVI 05-01-2021 01:40 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 919876)
I still have high hopes for Baun, and I hope he along with Davis and now Werner will become a strenght of the defense.

...but to be honest I was a Shanle, Lofton and Anzalone apologist.

Baun is way better than Werner.

FinSaint 05-01-2021 01:56 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919880)
Baun is way better than Werner.

I guess time will tell, but I do hope it'll be a case of one being good and the other one being even better.

AsylumGuido 05-01-2021 02:10 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919880)
Baun is way better than Werner.

How do you know that? Neither has had an opportunity yet in the NFL. Seriously, how can any player be defined before playing at the highest level with proper coaching and training? :confused:

SmashMouth 05-06-2021 03:59 PM

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WW_Who_Dat 05-06-2021 04:03 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
Braun has good speed maybe he will work in the Will position?

K Major 05-06-2021 04:11 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 920310)
Braun has good speed maybe he will work in the Will position?

Don't know about Baun, however Coach Payton mentioned that he plans to work Pete Werner at the WILL, but has the ability to play MIKE.

But yeah, I'm really curious to see how Baun is used in 2021.

saintsfan1976 05-06-2021 04:14 PM

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I'm still holding out that Kwon can return to us in some capacity. I love his play.

K Major 05-06-2021 07:05 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 920314)
I'm still holding out that Kwon can return to us in some capacity. I love his play.

Not sure if you follow Kwon on twitter but he's constantly updating workout videos. He's progressing nicely.

I'm with you 100 though, in his short stint with New Orleans he was solid & I hope he's back with us in 2021.

MarchingOn 05-06-2021 07:22 PM

Re: Saints Select LB Pete Werner in the 2nd Round
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 919722)
No one can because none of us have a clue.

Would've been interesting to see if we'd taken Cox with either pick in the 3rd including its last #105 (if we hadn't traded both to move up)


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