Saints are set for a training camp punter battle to replace Thomas Morstead

TheOak · 05-05-2021, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

League minimum for Morstead to return would be a bit over 1 million (if he would for that amount). Gillikin is making about 725,000.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Do we have to? He's admitted on SM he was hurt last year, on SM he's also posted some great workouts recently. I know our CAP is limited, but is there no way we can bring him back? Would he need that much $?

So we severed a player to make cap space at the cost of 2M in dead money and now we want to bring him back at league minimum adding another million to the cap hit??

Think that through please Gents, why would the league or Morestead go for that?

You cant just cut and re-sign at a lower salary to clear cap. This season is not an option for Morestead and the Saints.

SaintGnome · 05-05-2021, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So we severed a player to make cap space at the cost of 2M in dead money and now we want to bring him back at league minimum adding another million to the cap hit??

Think that through please Gents, why would the league or Morestead go for that?

You cant just cut and re-sign at a lower salary to clear cap. This season is not an option for Morestead and the Saints.

Wasn't aware of the CAP side of this, thanks.

TheOak · 05-05-2021, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Wasn't aware of the CAP side of this, thanks.

There are a lot of moving parts to player transactions, not the easiest thing to asses all areas of. I am only aware of many of them because of how much time I have spent trying t understand contracting and cap to be able to give qualitative comments here. I think most of that was done surrounding how the Jimmy Gram thing might play out.

AsylumGuido · 05-05-2021, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

There are a lot of moving parts to player transactions, not the easiest thing to asses all areas of. I am only aware of many of them because of how much time I have spent trying t understand contracting and cap to be able to give qualitative comments here. I think most of that was done surrounding how the Jimmy Gram thing might play out.

Yeah! That Jimmy Graham affair was fun to follow. The NFLPA had the perfect test case they had been looking for for years to pursue concerning franchise tag designations. They wanted either LB/DE or TE/WR to challenge. Either could set the precedent. I've been a fan of the contract and cap side of things for many years given it is basically cost accounting, the favorites of all the accounting courses that I took back in school.

AsylumGuido · 05-05-2021, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So we severed a player to make cap space at the cost of 2M in dead money and now we want to bring him back at league minimum adding another million to the cap hit??

Think that through please Gents, why would the league or Morestead go for that?

You cant just cut and re-sign at a lower salary to clear cap. This season is not an option for Morestead and the Saints.

The exact same applies to Josh Hill which someone mentioned in another thread.

SaintGnome · 05-05-2021, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The exact same applies to Josh Hill which someone mentioned in another thread.

My dumbass again

TheOak · 05-05-2021, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

My dumbass again

Ignorance is nothing more than a lack of exposure brother.

AsylumGuido · 05-05-2021, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

My dumbass again

LOL! No problem. Not everyone is dweebs like Oak and myself. By the way, Oak, that was a compliment.

05-05-2021, 01:53 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Saints are set for a training camp punter battle to replace Thomas Morstead Originally Posted by Boston Saint League minimum for Morstead to return would be a bit over 1 million (if he would for that amount). Gillikin is making about 725,000. Originally Posted by SaintGnome Do we have to? He's admitted on SM he was hurt last year, on SM he's also posted some great workouts recently. I know our CAP is limited, but is there no way we can bring him back? Would he need that much $? So we severed a player to make cap space at the cost of 2M in dead money and now we want to bring him back at league minimum adding another million to the cap hit?? Think that through please Gents, why would the league or Morestead go for that? You cant just cut and re-sign at a lower salary to clear cap. This season is not an option for Morestead and the Saints. AsylumGuido likes this.

05-05-2021, 01:57 PM	#2
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Saints are set for a training camp punter battle to replace Thomas Morstead Originally Posted by TheOak So we severed a player to make cap space at the cost of 2M in dead money and now we want to bring him back at league minimum adding another million to the cap hit?? Think that through please Gents, why would the league or Morestead go for that? You cant just cut and re-sign at a lower salary to clear cap. This season is not an option for Morestead and the Saints. Wasn't aware of the CAP side of this, thanks.

05-05-2021, 02:41 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Saints are set for a training camp punter battle to replace Thomas Morstead Originally Posted by SaintGnome Wasn't aware of the CAP side of this, thanks. There are a lot of moving parts to player transactions, not the easiest thing to asses all areas of. I am only aware of many of them because of how much time I have spent trying t understand contracting and cap to be able to give qualitative comments here. I think most of that was done surrounding how the Jimmy Gram thing might play out. AsylumGuido and SaintGnome like this.

05-05-2021, 03:00 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Saints are set for a training camp punter battle to replace Thomas Morstead Originally Posted by TheOak There are a lot of moving parts to player transactions, not the easiest thing to asses all areas of. I am only aware of many of them because of how much time I have spent trying t understand contracting and cap to be able to give qualitative comments here. I think most of that was done surrounding how the Jimmy Gram thing might play out. Yeah! That Jimmy Graham affair was fun to follow. The NFLPA had the perfect test case they had been looking for for years to pursue concerning franchise tag designations. They wanted either LB/DE or TE/WR to challenge. Either could set the precedent. I've been a fan of the contract and cap side of things for many years given it is basically cost accounting, the favorites of all the accounting courses that I took back in school.

05-05-2021, 02:23 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Saints are set for a training camp punter battle to replace Thomas Morstead Originally Posted by TheOak So we severed a player to make cap space at the cost of 2M in dead money and now we want to bring him back at league minimum adding another million to the cap hit?? Think that through please Gents, why would the league or Morestead go for that? You cant just cut and re-sign at a lower salary to clear cap. This season is not an option for Morestead and the Saints. The exact same applies to Josh Hill which someone mentioned in another thread.

05-05-2021, 02:27 PM	#6
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Saints are set for a training camp punter battle to replace Thomas Morstead Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The exact same applies to Josh Hill which someone mentioned in another thread. My dumbass again AsylumGuido likes this.

05-05-2021, 02:42 PM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Saints are set for a training camp punter battle to replace Thomas Morstead Originally Posted by SaintGnome My dumbass again Ignorance is nothing more than a lack of exposure brother. SaintGnome likes this.

05-05-2021, 03:03 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Saints are set for a training camp punter battle to replace Thomas Morstead Originally Posted by SaintGnome My dumbass again LOL! No problem. Not everyone is dweebs like Oak and myself. By the way, Oak, that was a compliment. SaintGnome likes this.