New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans

SmashMouth · 05-03-2021, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Ian Book vs Alabama 2021 (CFP Semifinal - Rose Bowl Game) - YouTube

A lot of throws off his back foot or throwing open shouldered, this results in inaccuracy and reduced velocity on this throws...

Capable, but not smart scrambler; often runs out of protection into trouble - this will get holding flags thrown vs his offensive linemen...

Very inconsistent, even erratic in his field vision; I've seen better film on him, but he was facing inferior opponents...

Facing a defense like Bama with multiple NFL-caliber players, despite supported by NFL-caliber players, he was ineffective...

Haven't you learned yet? ND can't hang with the big boys, no mater how good the QB is.

neugey · 05-03-2021, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Ian Book vs Alabama 2021 (CFP Semifinal - Rose Bowl Game) - YouTube

A lot of throws off his back foot or throwing open shouldered, this results in inaccuracy and reduced velocity on his throws...

Capable, but not smart scrambler; often runs out of protection into trouble - this will get holding flags thrown vs his offensive linemen...

Very inconsistent, even erratic in his field vision; I've seen better film on him, but he was facing inferior opponents...

Facing a defense like Bama with multiple NFL-caliber players, despite supported by NFL-caliber players, he was ineffective...

Some of those criticisms I agree with - particular the throwing mechanics needing a bit of refinement.

I actually like his scrambling. Unless it's a designed run, he seems to let the play develop and often scrambles at the right time to extend a play, or to salvage a play, a little like Elway. He doesn't scramble randomly like Deshaun Watson or Vick.

Seen a lot of criticisms of him holding the ball, but I view that as a positive. He's being selective and not putting the ball in risky spots, and he's looking for the high percentage completion.

He shows poise and good footwork. Very rarely see him get rattled. He can be trusted. That mental side of the game is underrrated and probably the main reason why he caught my attention.

Boston Saint · 05-03-2021, 01:29 PM

Most concerning criticism I’ve read is he doesn’t have a strong enough arm. Maybe that is unfair IDK.

AsylumGuido · 05-03-2021, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Most concerning criticism I’ve read is he doesn’t have a strong enough arm. Maybe that is unfair IDK.

They said the same thing about that San Diego QB, Drew Brees.

jeanpierre · 05-03-2021, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Most concerning criticism I’ve read is he doesn’t have a strong enough arm. Maybe that is unfair IDK.

Might be fixable, he makes a lot of throws open shoulder and/or off his back foot...

He's developed a lot of bad habits...

AsylumGuido · 05-03-2021, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Might be fixable, he makes a lot of throws open shoulder and/or off his back foot...

He's developed a lot of bad habits...

This is true. Tom House (pitching and QB guru) says that a QB's power comes from their feet and an efficient transference of that energy through the body in stages and through the fingers.

K Major · 05-03-2021, 08:14 AM

Turner & Mr. Mansfield (Adebo) should see plenty of action as rookies.

jeanpierre · 05-03-2021, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Turner & Mr. Mansfield (Adebo) should see plenty of action as rookies.

Wouldn't count out Pete Werner and Kawaan Short playing, contributing significant snaps right away - well, the need for their skill sets is definitely there...

Even Landon Young may be called upon as, well, Mr. Glass may be back this season...

K Major · 05-03-2021, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Wouldn't count out Pete Werner and Kawaan Short playing, contributing significant snaps right away - well, the need for their skill sets is definitely there...

Even Landon Young may be called upon as, well, Mr. Glass may be back this season...

You're right. As a second rounder, Pete needs to see the field a lot as a rookie.

Smash provided a video from Payton post draft and he stated that PW will see a lot of action at WILL but could also see some time at MIKE.

Camp awaits.

Oh and I think you meant Kawaan Baker

.

jeanpierre · 05-03-2021, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

You're right. As a second rounder, Pete needs to see the field a lot as a rookie.

Smash provided a video from Payton post draft and he stated that PW will see a lot of action at WILL but could also see some time at MIKE.

Camp awaits.

Oh and I think you meant Kawaan Baker .

Mea Culpa - Kawaan Baker...

05-03-2021, 08:25 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans Originally Posted by jeanpierre Ian Book vs Alabama 2021 (CFP Semifinal - Rose Bowl Game) - YouTube A lot of throws off his back foot or throwing open shouldered, this results in inaccuracy and reduced velocity on this throws... Capable, but not smart scrambler; often runs out of protection into trouble - this will get holding flags thrown vs his offensive linemen... Very inconsistent, even erratic in his field vision; I've seen better film on him, but he was facing inferior opponents... Facing a defense like Bama with multiple NFL-caliber players, despite supported by NFL-caliber players, he was ineffective... Haven't you learned yet? ND can't hang with the big boys, no mater how good the QB is. jeanpierre likes this.

05-03-2021, 12:10 PM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,819 Blog Entries: 13	Re: New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans Originally Posted by jeanpierre Ian Book vs Alabama 2021 (CFP Semifinal - Rose Bowl Game) - YouTube A lot of throws off his back foot or throwing open shouldered, this results in inaccuracy and reduced velocity on his throws... Capable, but not smart scrambler; often runs out of protection into trouble - this will get holding flags thrown vs his offensive linemen... Very inconsistent, even erratic in his field vision; I've seen better film on him, but he was facing inferior opponents... Facing a defense like Bama with multiple NFL-caliber players, despite supported by NFL-caliber players, he was ineffective... Some of those criticisms I agree with - particular the throwing mechanics needing a bit of refinement. I actually like his scrambling. Unless it's a designed run, he seems to let the play develop and often scrambles at the right time to extend a play, or to salvage a play, a little like Elway. He doesn't scramble randomly like Deshaun Watson or Vick. Seen a lot of criticisms of him holding the ball, but I view that as a positive. He's being selective and not putting the ball in risky spots, and he's looking for the high percentage completion. He shows poise and good footwork. Very rarely see him get rattled. He can be trusted. That mental side of the game is underrrated and probably the main reason why he caught my attention. AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and st thomas like this.

05-03-2021, 01:29 PM	#3
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans Originally Posted by Boston Saint Most concerning criticism I’ve read is he doesn’t have a strong enough arm. Maybe that is unfair IDK. They said the same thing about that San Diego QB, Drew Brees. st thomas likes this.

05-03-2021, 03:38 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans Originally Posted by Boston Saint Most concerning criticism I’ve read is he doesn’t have a strong enough arm. Maybe that is unfair IDK. Might be fixable, he makes a lot of throws open shoulder and/or off his back foot... He's developed a lot of bad habits...

05-03-2021, 04:06 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans Originally Posted by jeanpierre Might be fixable, he makes a lot of throws open shoulder and/or off his back foot... He's developed a lot of bad habits... This is true. Tom House (pitching and QB guru) says that a QB's power comes from their feet and an efficient transference of that energy through the body in stages and through the fingers. Rugby Saint II likes this.

05-03-2021, 08:14 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans Turner & Mr. Mansfield (Adebo) should see plenty of action as rookies. SmashMouth, jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

05-03-2021, 10:01 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans Originally Posted by K Major Turner & Mr. Mansfield (Adebo) should see plenty of action as rookies. Wouldn't count out Pete Werner and Kawaan Short playing, contributing significant snaps right away - well, the need for their skill sets is definitely there... Even Landon Young may be called upon as, well, Mr. Glass may be back this season... SmashMouth likes this.

05-03-2021, 10:06 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans Originally Posted by jeanpierre Wouldn't count out Pete Werner and Kawaan Short playing, contributing significant snaps right away - well, the need for their skill sets is definitely there... Even Landon Young may be called upon as, well, Mr. Glass may be back this season... You're right. As a second rounder, Pete needs to see the field a lot as a rookie. Smash provided a video from Payton post draft and he stated that PW will see a lot of action at WILL but could also see some time at MIKE. Camp awaits. Oh and I think you meant Kawaan Baker . jeanpierre likes this.

05-03-2021, 10:23 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints 2021 NFL draft picks share messages to fans Originally Posted by K Major You're right. As a second rounder, Pete needs to see the field a lot as a rookie. Smash provided a video from Payton post draft and he stated that PW will see a lot of action at WILL but could also see some time at MIKE. Camp awaits. Oh and I think you meant Kawaan Baker . Mea Culpa - Kawaan Baker... SmashMouth and K Major like this.

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