Likely Cuts We Should Target

iceshack149 · 05-19-2021, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Crickets chirping. The boards are quiet lately. I'm dying for some Saints info. I'm dying here.

Start a poll, Rugby! We all love a good poll.

Rugby Saint II · 05-19-2021, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Start a poll, Rugby! We all love a good poll.

Don't tempt me. I'm just bored enough to want to start a poll even at Guido's expense.

AsylumGuido · 05-19-2021, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Crickets chirping. The boards are quiet lately. I'm dying for some Saints info. I'm dying here.

I doubt anyone here has any idea on who might get cut from other rosters at this point. Thus the silence.

Rugby Saint II · 05-19-2021, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I doubt anyone here has any idea on who might get cut from other rosters at this point. Thus the silence.

Shhh.....don't tell anyone besides us. We don't want the whole world to know that. They might lose interest.

TheOak · 05-20-2021, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Crickets chirping. The boards are quiet lately. I'm dying for some Saints info. I'm dying here.

I believe that our cap position makes us more of a likely cut-er than a pick-er-up-er.

We may be $833k under the Top-51 but we are $15.2M over the total that we have to be under to start the season.

The draft class hasn't been signed which is expected to effect the cap as follows.
$5.1M Top-51
$6.4M Total

Looooong story short the following still has to happen
$4M in space to sign the draft class and stay under Top-51
Another $4M-$5M in space to sign a practice squad before the season starts.

Do those things and you still need to trim $15M to start the season as TOP-51 ends just after the last preseason game, then we have to be under a fully loaded cap.

I have a feeling a blood letting is going to happen.

AsylumGuido · 05-20-2021, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I believe that our cap position makes us more of a likely cut-er than a pick-er-up-er.

We may be $833k under the Top-51 but we are $15.2M over the total that we have to be under to start the season.

The draft class hasn't been signed which is expected to effect the cap as follows.
$5.1M Top-51
$6.4M Total

Looooong story short the following still has to happen
$4M in space to sign the draft class and stay under Top-51
Another $4M-$5M in space to sign a practice squad before the season starts.

Do those things and you still need to trim $15M to start the season as TOP-51 ends just after the last preseason game, then we have to be under a fully loaded cap.

I have a feeling a blood letting is going to happen.

That's going to be an issue. Virtually every contract that counts as a material hit against the 2021 cap has been previously restructured and carries a dead money hit equal to or greater than the player's 2021 salary. Cutting or trading any of these players would not help matters. Ramczyk, Marcus Williams, and Lattimore are the only three remaining that can result in solid cap clearing with restructure/extensions. I believe they are waiting to see what is going to be required before making those moves.

TheOak · 05-20-2021, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's going to be an issue. Virtually every contract that counts as a material hit against the 2021 cap has been previously restructured and carries a dead money hit equal to or greater than the player's 2021 salary. Cutting or trading any of these players would not help matters. Ramczyk, Marcus Williams, and Lattimore are the only three remaining that can result in solid cap clearing with restructure/extensions. I believe they are waiting to see what is going to be required before making those moves.

Agreed. I've been trying to point out what was coming for a few months and either I did not articulate it well enough or people didn't want to hear it.

Loomis is going to have to take out the Ouija board in 2021, his normal magic just wont cut it.

05-19-2021, 11:05 AM	#11
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,100 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Likely Cuts We Should Target Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Crickets chirping. The boards are quiet lately. I'm dying for some Saints info. I'm dying here. Start a poll, Rugby! We all love a good poll. Rugby Saint II likes this.

05-19-2021, 11:27 AM	#12
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,765	Re: Likely Cuts We Should Target Originally Posted by iceshack149 Start a poll, Rugby! We all love a good poll. Don't tempt me. I'm just bored enough to want to start a poll even at Guido's expense. SmashMouth likes this.

05-19-2021, 12:29 PM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Likely Cuts We Should Target Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Crickets chirping. The boards are quiet lately. I'm dying for some Saints info. I'm dying here. I doubt anyone here has any idea on who might get cut from other rosters at this point. Thus the silence.

05-19-2021, 01:57 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,765	Re: Likely Cuts We Should Target Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I doubt anyone here has any idea on who might get cut from other rosters at this point. Thus the silence. Shhh.....don't tell anyone besides us. We don't want the whole world to know that. They might lose interest.

05-20-2021, 06:57 AM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Likely Cuts We Should Target Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Crickets chirping. The boards are quiet lately. I'm dying for some Saints info. I'm dying here. I believe that our cap position makes us more of a likely cut-er than a pick-er-up-er. We may be $833k under the Top-51 but we are $15.2M over the total that we have to be under to start the season. The draft class hasn't been signed which is expected to effect the cap as follows. $5.1M Top-51 $6.4M Total Looooong story short the following still has to happen $4M in space to sign the draft class and stay under Top-51 Another $4M-$5M in space to sign a practice squad before the season starts. Do those things and you still need to trim $15M to start the season as TOP-51 ends just after the last preseason game, then we have to be under a fully loaded cap. I have a feeling a blood letting is going to happen. Rugby Saint II likes this.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

Latest Blogs
2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Last Blog: 08-01-2023 By: MarchingOn Puck the Fro Browl! Last Blog: 02-05-2023 By: neugey CFP: "Just Keep Doing What You're Doing" Last Blog: 12-08-2022 By: neugey

05-20-2021, 08:34 AM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Likely Cuts We Should Target Originally Posted by TheOak I believe that our cap position makes us more of a likely cut-er than a pick-er-up-er. We may be $833k under the Top-51 but we are $15.2M over the total that we have to be under to start the season. The draft class hasn't been signed which is expected to effect the cap as follows. $5.1M Top-51 $6.4M Total Looooong story short the following still has to happen $4M in space to sign the draft class and stay under Top-51 Another $4M-$5M in space to sign a practice squad before the season starts. Do those things and you still need to trim $15M to start the season as TOP-51 ends just after the last preseason game, then we have to be under a fully loaded cap. I have a feeling a blood letting is going to happen. That's going to be an issue. Virtually every contract that counts as a material hit against the 2021 cap has been previously restructured and carries a dead money hit equal to or greater than the player's 2021 salary. Cutting or trading any of these players would not help matters. Ramczyk, Marcus Williams, and Lattimore are the only three remaining that can result in solid cap clearing with restructure/extensions. I believe they are waiting to see what is going to be required before making those moves.

05-20-2021, 08:49 AM	#17
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Likely Cuts We Should Target Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's going to be an issue. Virtually every contract that counts as a material hit against the 2021 cap has been previously restructured and carries a dead money hit equal to or greater than the player's 2021 salary. Cutting or trading any of these players would not help matters. Ramczyk, Marcus Williams, and Lattimore are the only three remaining that can result in solid cap clearing with restructure/extensions. I believe they are waiting to see what is going to be required before making those moves. Agreed. I've been trying to point out what was coming for a few months and either I did not articulate it well enough or people didn't want to hear it. Loomis is going to have to take out the Ouija board in 2021, his normal magic just wont cut it. AsylumGuido likes this.