Zach Strief: Erik McCoy is on his way to becoming one of NFL’s top centers

FinSaint · 05-26-2021, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's been a little testy on the boards recently. The season can't get here fast enough.

Agreed. Makes me want to check in less and less...

Rugby Saint II · 05-26-2021, 12:21 PM

Saints front office is probably tired of waiting to tell Peat "You are the weakest link. Goodbye."

Boston Saint · 05-27-2021, 09:57 AM

Brees toolbox at the time included recovery from broken ribs. Doesn’t change that he would still be a top 10 QB and clearly starting over Winston or Hill and throwing for 20+ TDs and about 4000 yards if he was on the team. I guess machine was the wrong word to use about Cook but he disappeared from big games regularly. There’s obviously a reason he’s bounced around so much in the league.

My points are these. Brees was better last year than many other Super Bowl winning QBs have been, especially before the broken ribs. Teams certainly weren’t beating the Saints by squatting down on them...their blow out win against Tampa and other games from last year prove that. When healthy players were on the field they were more than effective. Brees was not solely (IMO even primarily) to blame for the playoff loss. Those are just my opinions of course. Brees has always been the type of player who takes responsibility, self criticizes, and avoids throwing fellow players under the bus. It doesn’t surprise me at all that he makes these statements about himself in an interview. It doesn’t mean he could not step in and still play.

Rugby Saint II · 05-27-2021, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Brees toolbox at the time included recovery from broken ribs. Doesn’t change that he would still be a top 10 QB and clearly starting over Winston or Hill and throwing for 20+ TDs and about 4000 yards if he was on the team. I guess machine was the wrong word to use about Cook but he disappeared from big games regularly. There’s obviously a reason he’s bounced around so much in the league.

My points are these. Brees was better last year than many other Super Bowl winning QBs have been, especially before the broken ribs. Teams certainly weren’t beating the Saints by squatting down on them...their blow out win against Tampa and other games from last year prove that. When healthy players were on the field they were more than effective. Brees was not solely (IMO even primarily) to blame for the playoff loss. Those are just my opinions of course. Brees has always been the type of player who takes responsibility, self criticizes, and avoids throwing fellow players under the bus. It doesn’t surprise me at all that he makes these statements about himself in an interview. It doesn’t mean he could not step in and still play.

I believe that he was playing good football before he broke his ribs and would have had another league leading season if not for that. After the rib injury he just wasn't the same player that he was before he got injured. Not to mention he had a soft tissue injury that limited him as well. He's a warrior but even warriors reach the end of the line.

AsylumGuido · 05-27-2021, 02:48 PM

What this all comes down to is that the offensive line was not to blame for our woes the past couple of seasons. If you could call 13-4 and 13-5 having woes, of course. Injuries to our QB that rendered him somewhat average was a major contributing factor, however. I doubt there's many, if any, teams in the league that would not take our offensive line room in trade in a minute. That wouldn't be the case if two of our five starting positions were truly "very weak" as described.

05-26-2021, 01:51 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Zach Strief: Erik McCoy is on his way to becoming one of NFL’s top centers Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's been a little testy on the boards recently. The season can't get here fast enough. Agreed. Makes me want to check in less and less...

05-26-2021, 12:21 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,250	Re: Zach Strief: Erik McCoy is on his way to becoming one of NFL’s top centers Saints front office is probably tired of waiting to tell Peat "You are the weakest link. Goodbye." st thomas likes this.

05-27-2021, 09:57 AM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Zach Strief: Erik McCoy is on his way to becoming one of NFL’s top centers Brees toolbox at the time included recovery from broken ribs. Doesn’t change that he would still be a top 10 QB and clearly starting over Winston or Hill and throwing for 20+ TDs and about 4000 yards if he was on the team. I guess machine was the wrong word to use about Cook but he disappeared from big games regularly. There’s obviously a reason he’s bounced around so much in the league. My points are these. Brees was better last year than many other Super Bowl winning QBs have been, especially before the broken ribs. Teams certainly weren’t beating the Saints by squatting down on them...their blow out win against Tampa and other games from last year prove that. When healthy players were on the field they were more than effective. Brees was not solely (IMO even primarily) to blame for the playoff loss. Those are just my opinions of course. Brees has always been the type of player who takes responsibility, self criticizes, and avoids throwing fellow players under the bus. It doesn’t surprise me at all that he makes these statements about himself in an interview. It doesn’t mean he could not step in and still play. iceshack149, AsylumGuido, jeanpierre and 2 others like this.
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05-27-2021, 01:00 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,250	Re: Zach Strief: Erik McCoy is on his way to becoming one of NFL’s top centers Originally Posted by Boston Saint Brees toolbox at the time included recovery from broken ribs. Doesn’t change that he would still be a top 10 QB and clearly starting over Winston or Hill and throwing for 20+ TDs and about 4000 yards if he was on the team. I guess machine was the wrong word to use about Cook but he disappeared from big games regularly. There’s obviously a reason he’s bounced around so much in the league. My points are these. Brees was better last year than many other Super Bowl winning QBs have been, especially before the broken ribs. Teams certainly weren’t beating the Saints by squatting down on them...their blow out win against Tampa and other games from last year prove that. When healthy players were on the field they were more than effective. Brees was not solely (IMO even primarily) to blame for the playoff loss. Those are just my opinions of course. Brees has always been the type of player who takes responsibility, self criticizes, and avoids throwing fellow players under the bus. It doesn’t surprise me at all that he makes these statements about himself in an interview. It doesn’t mean he could not step in and still play. I believe that he was playing good football before he broke his ribs and would have had another league leading season if not for that. After the rib injury he just wasn't the same player that he was before he got injured. Not to mention he had a soft tissue injury that limited him as well. He's a warrior but even warriors reach the end of the line. Boston Saint likes this.

05-27-2021, 02:48 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: Zach Strief: Erik McCoy is on his way to becoming one of NFL’s top centers What this all comes down to is that the offensive line was not to blame for our woes the past couple of seasons. If you could call 13-4 and 13-5 having woes, of course. Injuries to our QB that rendered him somewhat average was a major contributing factor, however. I doubt there's many, if any, teams in the league that would not take our offensive line room in trade in a minute. That wouldn't be the case if two of our five starting positions were truly "very weak" as described. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.