Zach Strief: Erik McCoy is on his way to becoming one of NFL’s top centers

gosaints1 · 05-27-2021, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Disagree - I'd say you're not giving enough weight to Brees' ability to get the ball out quickly so the offensive line didn't have to maintain blocks longer...

And because of Brees' ability to get the ball out quick, we've had success running because the pass had opened up the run attack, when we've used it...

It’s a fair point, and one I understand, but see differently..., and ‘Pass opening up the run’? I doubt that. 31 other NFL teams knew that all they had to do was squat inside 20 yards bc as even the future first ballot Hall of Fame QB recently stated when going through his progressions:

1) “I can’t make that throw”

2) “I can’t make that throw”

3) “I can’t make that throw”

4) “I KNOW I can’t make that throw”

As our greatest QB aged, he no longer was able to make the throws needed, either bc of year long injuries or simply aging. The last few years, the pass most definitely did not open up the run. The running game was good for three reasons.

1) Alvin Kamara

2) Latavius Murray

3) An effective run blocking Offensive Line.

Brees getting the ball out quickly almost always meant a dump out in the flat to Kamara, or an out route inside ten yards..., and the entire league knew it. Sometimes it amazes me at the amount of success the Saints have had, in spite of Mr. Brees recently. Not meaning to disparage him, truly I’m not, but he was done. We saw it clearly the last year. But it’s my belief it’s been snowballing for several years now.

05-27-2021, 02:21 AM	#27
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Zach Strief: Erik McCoy is on his way to becoming one of NFL’s top centers Originally Posted by jeanpierre Disagree - I'd say you're not giving enough weight to Brees' ability to get the ball out quickly so the offensive line didn't have to maintain blocks longer... And because of Brees' ability to get the ball out quick, we've had success running because the pass had opened up the run attack, when we've used it... It’s a fair point, and one I understand, but see differently..., and ‘Pass opening up the run’? I doubt that. 31 other NFL teams knew that all they had to do was squat inside 20 yards bc as even the future first ballot Hall of Fame QB recently stated when going through his progressions: 1) “I can’t make that throw” 2) “I can’t make that throw” 3) “I can’t make that throw” 4) “I KNOW I can’t make that throw” As our greatest QB aged, he no longer was able to make the throws needed, either bc of year long injuries or simply aging. The last few years, the pass most definitely did not open up the run. The running game was good for three reasons. 1) Alvin Kamara 2) Latavius Murray 3) An effective run blocking Offensive Line. Brees getting the ball out quickly almost always meant a dump out in the flat to Kamara, or an out route inside ten yards..., and the entire league knew it. Sometimes it amazes me at the amount of success the Saints have had, in spite of Mr. Brees recently. Not meaning to disparage him, truly I’m not, but he was done. We saw it clearly the last year. But it’s my belief it’s been snowballing for several years now. jeanpierre likes this.
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