Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

No. I want your reasoning. I've thought about it and don't get it. Call me naïve. Please spell it out.

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Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

No, figure it out. You won’t listen to reason anyway.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

Is it something you are afraid to share? Seriously, I have no idea what you are talking about. You want to debate subjects and are now not willing to try to express your argument? I don't get it. I am seriously confused. I first have to see reason to listen to it.

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Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

I’m sure there are many here who got my point. Think about it a bit more with an open mind. It’s not that hard.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

I have an open mind. Why can't you simply state what you mean? I'm not sh!ttin' you, Boston. I don't get what you mean. Is your point in some way controversial? Is that what you are trying to convey?

If you feel uncomfortable sharing it contact me via PM.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

I was using concrete examples of players like Smith, Owens, Dobler etc that did not seem to play the game with an abundance of maturity and professionalism as examples against your blanket statement that players are professionals, form brotherhoods, and shake off grudges.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

A few players that have been the extreme outliers. I get it. But, in what way do you tie Michael Thomas into being one of them?

I gave you an example of Steve Smith and his partner in the fight not holding a grudge and moving past it. Do you deny that?

Even Conrad Dobler said he has asked Merlin Olsen to move past that supposed grudge and in his own words, "let it go". I can share the article if you wish. Dobler was a maniac when he played. Undoubtedly. But what does that have to do with someone provoking a reaction from Thomas and somehow Thomas "holding a grudge that will impact the locker room"?

But, back to the subject, in life, do you naturally expect everyone to hold grudges and be hateful? Is that the norm?

Boston, people are forgiving by nature. Sure, there are extremely isolated cases, but every conflict absolutely does not ensure a future of conflict.

Do you not agree?

I proposed several questions, but the first I wish you to answer is ...

Do you personally believe that Michael Thomas holds some sort of personal grudge toward Gardner-Johnson that impacts the stability of the Saints moving forward?

Easy to answer. Yes, or No. Then you can move on to the others, if you wish.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

I am not even going to try and assume what Thomas feels towards GJ and vice versa. Assumptions frequently get people in trouble. I know I still hold grudges against guys I’ve traded punches with in my life. I sure wouldn’t go after another user here who says they hope there is no bad blood between the two.

Yes or no, do you hope the bad blood between the two is over?

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

You need to go on Dancing With The Stars, Boston. You totally danced around and never answered a simple Yes or No. LOL!

But, I'll answer yours right now. Yes. I would never wish bad blood between anyone. It's made a non-issue because it has already been answered by both of them that there was none?

Now, You answer ... Yes or No.

Do you personally believe that Michael Thomas holds some sort of personal grudge toward Gardner-Johnson that impacts the stability of the Saints moving forward?

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

Your question has as much validity as if I asked you if you believe me
when I tell you I drive a Chevy pickup.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

Yes!

I believe you do. It doesn't mean you do, but is is what I honestly believe down deep.

Now, please answer Yes or No. What do you believe down deep like me?

Do you personally believe that Michael Thomas holds some sort of personal grudge toward Gardner-Johnson that impacts the stability of the Saints moving forward?

Oh, my answer is No.

One word is all it takes. ;)

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

Why are you so hung up on this specific question worded this way? It is along the lines of “do you still beat your dog?”.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

I don't get that out of it. It's either yes or no. Neither answer defines you. It just answers what you believe. To me the answer is easy. No. In no way do I believe that.

I asked it that way because that is what ST implied he believed and you came to his defense when I questioned it. Just wondering what you truly think yourself.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

I honestly think their is an equal chance of their being a dislike between the two as there is of them being fine with each other.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

https://static.seekingalpha.com/uplo...948_origin.jpg

The whole point was ...

... some sort of personal grudge toward Gardner-Johnson that impacts the stability of the Saints moving forward?

Not whether they like each other or not.

:p

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

I won’t feel bad for expressing my opinion (or lack thereof) about it. Ridicule if you like. Two guys had a fight. One got suspended. There is obviously a history. I don’t know how each feels about the other now. Thomas turned on Brees a bit and seems to have a high level of self confidence with his CGM persona (some would say a WR Diva complex). J seems to have a way of getting under opponents skin. I’m not going to discount the possibility they don’t like each other. Weather that translates to a situation that could have a serious impact on the team is another matter. I am not going to count on it either way. Like expressed before, I hope it’s not there. Sorry that answer bothers you. You are trying to maneuver me into an answer about a hypothetically potential situation of your making and answering that question has no benefit.

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 

Thank you! You went above and beyond. You explained the situation quite well and qualified your thoughts. That's all I was asking, truly. You are a valuable member of our B&G community and I respect your input tremendously.