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SmashMouth 06-11-2021 06:12 PM

Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Saints wide receiver Michael Thomas was only able to play seven regular-season games in 2020. And while he came off injured reserve for the postseason, he didn’t make a catch in New Orleans’ loss to Tampa Bay in the Divisional Round.

On Thursday, Saints head coach Sean Payton said Thomas’ ankle that limited him last year is doing fine now.

“He’s here and participating. He looks good,” Payton said in his press conference. “We still monitor it, pay attention to it, scan it, and all those things. He’s getting treatment and doing the things necessary. So, so far, so good.”

Thomas set an NFL single-season record with 149 receptions in 2019 while also leading the league with 1,725 yards. Through five seasons, Thomas has 510 catches for 5,950 yards with 32 TDs.

Boston Saint 06-12-2021 05:58 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
WTF did he really do to his ankle to still be requiring scans and treatment? This is nuts! I sprained my ankle badly my senior year and needed a cast for a few months. Doc told me it was the worst sprain he had ever seen without actually breaking something. Can’t imagine he’s still dealing with it now.

dizzle88 06-12-2021 07:01 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
I can't imagine him playing through the injury helped him in any way, so I'd wager thats why he is still having issues with it.

ChrisXVI 06-12-2021 08:31 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
High ankle sprains can bother people for life.

Rugby Saint II 06-12-2021 02:18 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
So, who will be our number one receiver if his ankle keeps him side lined like last year?

mapcow 06-13-2021 09:33 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
:dunce::bng:So far So Good..... then outta here!?

Boston Saint 06-13-2021 10:24 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 921938)
So, who will be our number one receiver if his ankle keeps him side lined like last year?

Taysom Hill

AsylumGuido 06-13-2021 12:44 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 921953)
:dunce::bng:So far So Good..... then outta here!?

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The Dude 06-13-2021 04:52 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
All because Payton wouldn’t take him out on the last drive of the game when the game was already won.

AsylumGuido 06-13-2021 06:10 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 921967)
All because Payton wouldn’t take him out on the last drive of the game when the game was already won.

That same scenario has been there how many times? You never know when an injury will happen, Dude. Starters play to the last snap in NFL games all the time. All the time, I repeat. Sh!t, happens. Sometimes it is bad.

jeanpierre 06-13-2021 07:14 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 921967)
All because Payton wouldn’t take him out on the last drive of the game when the game was already won.

#SituationalAwareness ?

dizzle88 06-13-2021 07:41 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Wasn't it Peat that landed on him too?

I swear that guy injures more of our players than opposing ones.

AsylumGuido 06-13-2021 09:00 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 921971)
#SituationalAwareness ?

What's with the hashtags? Are we linked to Instagram or Twitter?

shawnkytonk 06-13-2021 11:13 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 921913)
WTF did he really do to his ankle to still be requiring scans and treatment? This is nuts! I sprained my ankle badly my senior year and needed a cast for a few months. Doc told me it was the worst sprain he had ever seen without actually breaking something. Can’t imagine he’s still dealing with it now.

As someone who has played more fantasy football than I should, high ankle sprains are serious issues. He probably shouldn't have been brought back like he was. That injury takes a great deal of time to recover from.

SmashMouth 06-14-2021 08:12 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 921972)
Wasn't it Peat that landed on him too?

I swear that guy injures more of our players than opposing ones.

Popeyes Chickenz Sammich Peat? ... NEAUUUUXXXXX! Say it ain't so.

st thomas 06-14-2021 08:13 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
I hope his ankle is on the mend, it’s his state of mind I’m worried about. I hope his beef with G. Johnson is done. Please let it go.


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Boston Saint 06-14-2021 08:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 921974)
As someone who has played more fantasy football than I should, high ankle sprains are serious issues. He probably shouldn't have been brought back like he was. That injury takes a great deal of time to recover from.

Are high ankle sprains common in Fantasy Football ? 😜

K Major 06-14-2021 08:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 921977)
Popeyes Chickenz Sammich Peat? ... NEAUUUUXXXXX! Say it ain't so.

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K Major 06-14-2021 08:36 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
I'm more concerned about the #2 spot at WR.

3quan has been inconsistent, Callaway & Deonte were banged up last season and Cook/Emmanuel Sanders are gone.

I think Adam (TE) will play well & my dark horse Kawaan Baker will make this team and surprise some.

Hopefully Mike is 100% by the time it matters most. As a whole, our WR group must perform better than that PFF 27th ranking from 2020.

Boston Saint 06-14-2021 09:12 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 921984)
I'm more concerned about the #2 spot at WR.

3quan has been inconsistent, Callaway & Deonte were banged up last season and Cook/Emmanuel Sanders are gone.

I think Adam (TE) will play well & my dark horse Kawaan Baker will make this team and surprise some.

Hopefully Mike is 100% by the time it matters most. As a whole, our WR group must perform better than that PFF 27th ranking from 2020.

Agree totally Major. And of course that 27 ranking had nothing to do with the Saint’s difficulty stretching the field...it was ALL on Brees arm of course 🙄. With Thomas’s injury, i’m honestly surprised they found 5 teams whose WR corps was worse!

jeanpierre 06-14-2021 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 921984)
I'm more concerned about the #2 spot at WR.

3quan has been inconsistent, Callaway & Deonte were banged up last season and Cook/Emmanuel Sanders are gone.

I think Adam (TE) will play well & my dark horse Kawaan Baker will make this team and surprise some.

Hopefully Mike is 100% by the time it matters most. As a whole, our WR group must perform better than that PFF 27th ranking from 2020.

Who is #GoldenTate for $3M, One year?

K Major 06-14-2021 11:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 921991)
Who is #GoldenTate for $3M, One year?

AKA the Saints killer. I fully expect the younger guys to battle it out at camp, however Tate would be a very good insurance policy in the slot.

No pun intended but veteran NFL players can be "golden" :p.

The Dude 06-14-2021 01:00 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 921991)
Who is #GoldenTate for $3M, One year?

I’ve been hoping to get him for a few years now.

AsylumGuido 06-14-2021 01:35 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 921978)
I hope his ankle is on the mend, it’s his state of mind I’m worried about. I hope his beef with G. Johnson is done. Please let it go.


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That beef was over by the next week. That type of stuff happens all the time. Both players said there was nothing to it. I think you are the one that needs to "let it go", ST. I think you are making FAR, FAR more out of a simple practice scuffle than ever was there.

st thomas 06-14-2021 09:43 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 921998)
That beef was over by the next week. That type of stuff happens all the time. Both players said there was nothing to it. I think you are the one that needs to "let it go", ST. I think you are making FAR, FAR more out of a simple practice scuffle than ever was there.


I never heard of of practice scuffle that a player was sent home for a week AG you need to get your story rite, I hear they keep there distance what you here is babble to make you believe it’s over.


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AsylumGuido 06-15-2021 07:15 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 922027)
I never heard of of practice scuffle that a player was sent home for a week AG you need to get your story rite, I hear they keep there distance what you here is babble to make you believe it’s over.


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These guys are intense competitors. Tempers can flare. What may piss you off and cause you to hold a grudge is nothing to them. First and foremost they are professionals. Players don't have to like each other personally, but they truly form a brotherhood. I honestly don't get why you have some feeling there is some serious problem there that would interfere with either doing their job. I guarantee you the whole thing never enters their mind any longer. Both have said that and there is no reason not to believe them.

It's like the deal between Brees and Malcolm Jenkins. That was a hundred times more intense and Jenkins stated since that they love each other like brothers and that's all in the past. If they can do it surely Gardner-Johnson and Thomas can over a stupid little camp scuffle.

Oh, and Thomas was not sent home for a week for what happened with Gardner-Johnson. According to Payton he was sent home because got into it with a coach AFTER the incident You need to get your story right, my friend.

;)

TheOak 06-15-2021 07:21 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 921913)
WTF did he really do to his ankle to still be requiring scans and treatment? This is nuts! I sprained my ankle badly my senior year and needed a cast for a few months. Doc told me it was the worst sprain he had ever seen without actually breaking something. Can’t imagine he’s still dealing with it now.

If your High School has invested $96MM in you, they might still want scans of that ankle :bng:.

st thomas 06-15-2021 08:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922028)
These guys are intense competitors. Tempers can flare. What may piss you off and cause you to hold a grudge is nothing to them. First and foremost they are professionals. Players don't have to like each other personally, but they truly form a brotherhood. I honestly don't get why you have some feeling there is some serious problem there that would interfere with either doing their job. I guarantee you the whole thing never enters their mind any longer. Both have said that and there is no reason not to believe them.

It's like the deal between Brees and Malcolm Jenkins. That was a hundred times more intense and Jenkins stated since that they love each other like brothers and that's all in the past. If they can do it surely Gardner-Johnson and Thomas can over a stupid little camp scuffle.

Oh, and Thomas was not sent home for a week for what happened with Gardner-Johnson. According to Payton he was sent home because got into it with a coach AFTER the incident You need to get your story right, my friend.

;)


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st thomas 06-15-2021 08:49 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 922030)
Bite my asre mr no it all


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Again , you come at me personably for what I think, it’s my opinion not yours u tell me to get off of something I think AG , where the hell u get off on telling people off of what they believe is not normal on a football field that made national headlines on every sports outfit in the country and it’s just a practice scuffle. If I think MT is a Steve smith just not yet. But go blow ur smoke up someone’s else’s asre. Pleasssse!


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Boston Saint 06-15-2021 09:00 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922028)
These guys are intense competitors. Tempers can flare. What may piss you off and cause you to hold a grudge is nothing to them. First and foremost they are professionals. Players don't have to like each other personally, but they truly form a brotherhood. I honestly don't get why you have some feeling there is some serious problem there that would interfere with either doing their job. I guarantee you the whole thing never enters their mind any longer. Both have said that and there is no reason not to believe them.

It's like the deal between Brees and Malcolm Jenkins. That was a hundred times more intense and Jenkins stated since that they love each other like brothers and that's all in the past. If they can do it surely Gardner-Johnson and Thomas can over a stupid little camp scuffle.

Oh, and Thomas was not sent home for a week for what happened with Gardner-Johnson. According to Payton he was sent home because got into it with a coach AFTER the incident You need to get your story right, my friend.

;)

Yeah, guys like Steve Smith, Terrell Owens, Ray Rice and Bill Romanowski were consummate professionals who always carried themselves with dignity and never let their emotions rule them or hold grudges. 🙄

AsylumGuido 06-15-2021 09:28 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 922031)
Again , you come at me personably for what I think, it’s my opinion not yours u tell me to get off of something I think AG , where the hell u get off on telling people off of what they believe is not normal on a football field that made national headlines on every sports outfit in the country and it’s just a practice scuffle. If I think MT is a Steve smith just not yet. But go blow ur smoke up someone’s else’s asre. Pleasssse!


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I didn't come at you personally. Don't get where that comes from. :confused:

Sure it made news on all "sports outfits". It's the NFL. It's the most popular sport in the world. The defending Offensive Player of the Year was suspended by the team for getting into it with a coach. He served his brief suspension and everyone moved on, including the "sports outfits" looking for the next thing they could overhype. I'll guarantee if someone were to ask anyone associated with the team if there was any lingering issue, to a man they'd most likely laugh in that person's face.

It's just when someone tells me that they don't have any issues with another person I believe them. I guess it's just my trusting positive nature and belief in humankind. Believe whatever you want if it makes you feel better. That, of course, is your prerogative. If you think Thomas is some sort of prima donna, then fine. That, too, is your prerogative.

mapcow 06-15-2021 09:37 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 922030)
Bite my asre mr no it all


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Guido is obtuse.... ignore him:dunce:

AsylumGuido 06-15-2021 09:41 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 922031)
Again , you come at me personably for what I think, it’s my opinion not yours u tell me to get off of something I think AG , where the hell u get off on telling people off of what they believe is not normal on a football field that made national headlines on every sports outfit in the country and it’s just a practice scuffle. If I think MT is a Steve smith just not yet. But go blow ur smoke up someone’s else’s asre. Pleasssse!


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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 922032)
Yeah, guys like Steve Smith, Terrell Owens, Ray Rice and Bill Romanowski were consummate professionals who always carried themselves with dignity and never let their emotions rule them or hold grudges. 🙄

On Steve Smith:

According to an ESPN The Magazine feature on the incident, it sounds like Lucas and Smith had been going at each other in practices when Smith snapped. And the aftermath of that incident has been kind of fascinating. For as disturbing as the fight was, their public and private reconciliation served as a catalyst for the team that season, which the Panthers finished with a 12-4 record. When Smith caught his first touchdown that season, following the fight, he ran over to Lucas and presented him with the ball. Lucas said after the game, “Since day one, since the moment it happened, he has done everything that a man could ever do from a forgiveness standpoint … My hat is off to him. I’m surprised, but I’m not surprised.”

The fight between Smith and Lucas was FAR more vehement than the brief scuffle between Gardner-Johnson and Thomas. And, don't forget it was Gardner-Johnson that was the instigator, not Thomas, and he also caused two other players to throw punches in his direction. But, this shows how a fight between teammates doesn't have to create a permanent rift.

Ray Rice's issue were off the field. Romanowski was simply a mental case. Owen's had issues, as well, and was clearly self-centered. I don't see any of them resembling Michael Thomas in nature at all.

AsylumGuido 06-15-2021 09:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 922034)
Guido is obtuse.... ignore him:dunce:

You apparently cannot ignore me. Virtually every post of yours is in response or in reference to me.

Take your own advice and ignore me.

:D

Boston Saint 06-15-2021 10:21 AM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922036)
On Steve Smith:

According to an ESPN The Magazine feature on the incident, it sounds like Lucas and Smith had been going at each other in practices when Smith snapped. And the aftermath of that incident has been kind of fascinating. For as disturbing as the fight was, their public and private reconciliation served as a catalyst for the team that season, which the Panthers finished with a 12-4 record. When Smith caught his first touchdown that season, following the fight, he ran over to Lucas and presented him with the ball. Lucas said after the game, “Since day one, since the moment it happened, he has done everything that a man could ever do from a forgiveness standpoint … My hat is off to him. I’m surprised, but I’m not surprised.”

The fight between Smith and Lucas was FAR more vehement than the brief scuffle between Gardner-Johnson and Thomas. And, don't forget it was Gardner-Johnson that was the instigator, not Thomas, and he also caused two other players to throw punches in his direction. But, this shows how a fight between teammates doesn't have to create a permanent rift.

Ray Rice's issue were off the field. Romanowski was simply a mental case. Owen's had issues, as well, and was clearly self-centered. I don't see any of them resembling Michael Thomas in nature at all.

Oh, I forgot you were in the middle of both Thomas and Smiths fights and have intimate knowledge of cause, result, and aftermath! And that was hardly the only fight SS ever had. Are you claiming Smith has no bad blood against any player that he ever scuffled with??? BS.

Do I need to go back to Conrad Dobler examples to point out how crazy your statement about players being professionals and being above holding grudges is? My point is perfectly valid and accurate even if you won’t admit it.

And I’m sorry, but when a user makes a simple statement about hoping two players don’t hold a grudge and you respond with:

“I think you are the one that needs to "let it go", ST. I think you are making FAR, FAR more out of a simple practice scuffle than ever was there.“

You sure as hell are making it personal...especially when you follow up with a
post to him highlighting the word “you”. But maybe you are acting out your “haters gonna hate” mantra...IDK. Whatever point you are trying to make, a person as presumably accomplished as you portray to be can make it without insulting others should you choose.

Sorry for sticking up for you St T....I know you don’t need my help.

AsylumGuido 06-15-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 922039)
Oh, I forgot you were in the middle of both Thomas and Smiths fights and have intimate knowledge of cause, result, and aftermath! And that was hardly the only fight SS ever had. Are you claiming Smith has no bad blood against any player that he ever scuffled with??? BS.

Do I need to go back to Conrad Dobler examples to point out how crazy your statement about players being professionals and being above holding grudges is? My point is perfectly valid and accurate even if you won’t admit it.

And I’m sorry, but when a user makes a simple statement about hoping two players don’t hold a grudge and you respond with:

“I think you are the one that needs to "let it go", ST. I think you are making FAR, FAR more out of a simple practice scuffle than ever was there.“

You sure as hell are making it personal...especially when you follow up with a
post to him highlighting the word “you”. But maybe you are acting out your “haters gonna hate” mantra...IDK. Whatever point you are trying to make, a person as presumably accomplished as you portray to be can make it without insulting others should you choose.

Sorry for sticking up for you St T....I know you don’t need my help.

First of all, ST wasn't "hoping two players don't hold a grudge", he was saying that he is convinced that they do hold a grudge and I was simply explaining that both have said they weren't and there is no reason for them to lie about that. I emphasized the "you" because if there truly is no longer an issue between the two of them as they claim then it is, by process of elimination, an issue for anyone that still believes an issue still exists. That individual is actually the one holding the grudge, not the two person's actually involved. In no way is any of that an insult. Have either of you ever had a fight or an argument with someone else? I know I have and in every case we were able to move on and leave it completely behind us. That is the way it usually works between two adults.

As for being there for both fights involving Thomas and Smith, no, I wasn't. But the cause (for the most part), result, and aftermath were presented in pretty clear depth. All of Smith's altercations were covered in depth on ESPN The Magazine and while we were not told exactly what Garner-Johnson said to draw the punch, the result and aftermath were addressed by Sean Payton via the media.

As for Dobler and grudges, there are undoubtedly dozens, if not hundreds of fights in practices and games in the NFL, college, etc. every year and while there is mostly likely a handful of grudges held, that clearly isn't the normal case.

To me it just isn't logical to think the very worst when every indication is that the worst is not the case.

But like you said, ST is an adult and can articulate his own case. By the way, this discussion in no way alters my positive feeling toward either of you.

:D

Boston Saint 06-15-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922040)
First of all, ST wasn't "hoping two players don't hold a grudge", he was saying that he is convinced that they do hold a grudge
:D

Thank you for explaining what someone else meant as if they were not capable of doing so themselves.

I shouldn’t be surprised though, you’ve already told me how Smith, Thomas, etc feel and think.

gosaints1 06-15-2021 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 922039)
...Do I need to go back to Conrad Dobler examples to point out how crazy your statement about players being professionals and being above holding grudges is?

I’d give you two thumbs up if I could for the old school name drop, lol. Well played! Well played indeed.

AsylumGuido 06-15-2021 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 922045)
Thank you for explaining what someone else meant as if they were not capable of doing so themselves.

I shouldn’t be surprised though, you’ve already told me how Smith, Thomas, etc feel and think.

I was explaining it to you. You seemed to have misinterpreted what he was saying. Our friend, ST, has shared on many occasions that he feels like Thomas is holding some sort of grudge and he feels like it can be detrimental in the locker room. And, no, I told you what Smith, Thomas, and others said about what they feel and think. Huge difference there, Boston. None of us can be in their heads. We can only rely on what they say. If they say and demonstrate that whatever past issue is behind them why not believe them?

And I don't get the comparison between Steve Smith and Michael Thomas anyway other than they are both WR's. Smith was involved in three encounters in his career. Thomas only once and that isolated event was instigated by Gardner-Johnson. I would think the comparison would be a better fit between Smith and Gardner-Johnson who has drawn punches from three different player in his short career. When has Thomas ever given the impression of being some sort of locker room trouble maker?

Boston Saint 06-15-2021 04:28 PM

Re: Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922050)

And I don't get the comparison between Steve Smith and Michael Thomas anyway...

Think about it. It will come to you.


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