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Fixing one of the league’s worst secondary (2018) on the arrival of Arians new coaching staff (2019) was more important, at the time than the QB situation. They failed at that, and in 2019 TB had one of the league’s worst secondaries, again, this time under Arians and Bowles. But, speaking of Winston, here’s what the new HC said about Winston, and elite QB’s in general, at the time:

Arians said Winston has the unteachable ability of the top-notch NFL quarterbacks, but his new coaches would help him refine and focus that talent to reach that level.

“The really good ones were born with it,” Arians said. "You can try to take some credit for it, but God did it and Mom and Dad. Decision process, that’s one of the things you can really get better at, and knowing your offense, especially your protections, you can play the game faster.

https://www.al.com/sports/2019/03/br...uccessful.html

I happen to agree with him. He’s not the reason Peyton Manning was successful, nor the reason Tom Brady was. Their innate abilities, or as Arians himself describes “God & Mom” given talent are the reasons. Rothlisberger struggled with injuries bc of career high sacks under Arians tenure, and injuries, which led to Pitt not renewing his contract.

So did Andrew Luck, who had a fairly short, especially being a QB, career.

Carson Palmer was injured a lot under Arians Tenure also. But he was a QB in the league for a decade before Arians was connected to him.

Bottom line, the Manning’s were bred for football, Arians did little for Peyton, nothing any other QB Coach couldn’t do. Tom Brady is/was an anomalous outlier, his success had nothing to do with Arians. Both Carson Palmer and Andrew Luck had moderate level of successes, but nothing significant.

But even more simpler than that JP..., if Arians was TRULY a QB whisperer..., one would think he would have figured out the young man’s vision (Winston) was a problem. How did he make it through five years of football while squinting at receivers? That’s not something leader’s miss.

Personally, I like Arians, he’s a QB’s coach. They’re his focus. But that being said, TB’s defense was the reason for the team we saw last year. And there was a TON of change in that organization when Arians came on board.

https://footballscoop.com/news/bruce...ff-nfl-history

Arians did just draft a QB, #64 overall though. Let’s allow that to define him as a QB whisperer, or not. If Trask is a superstar, then you’ll have a believer in me. But I agree, Gronk played little to no role in TB’s success, TB’s defense, however did, and those defensive draftees from 2019 and 2020 were critical.

Not the same team. Not the same coaches.