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jeanpierre 06-24-2021 06:47 AM
USA Today/SaintsWire | David Onyemata overlooked on list of best NFL interior defensive linemen
 

Boston Saint 06-24-2021 07:41 AM
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Good! Hope it pisses him the F$&k off!!

jeanpierre 06-24-2021 07:53 AM
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Everyone focused on Rankins, and I kept saying Onyemata was the better, more effective, and available defensive tackle...

Now light a fire under him and watch him start crushing quarterbacks as he did that time vs Cam Newton...

TheOak 06-24-2021 07:56 AM
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I’ve never understood the drivers for articles like this. If you want to write about how good a player is then do that, there is no need to frame it in controversy. Is the title intended to somehow trigger Onyemata?

The assumption that someone’s inability to recognize skill that another person sees is an intentional snub is pretty far fetched.

jeanpierre 06-24-2021 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 922363)
I’ve never understood the drivers for articles like this. If you want to write about how good a player is then do that, there is no need to frame it in controversy. Is the title intended to somehow trigger Onyemata?

The assumption that someone’s inability to recognize skill that another person sees is an intentional snub is pretty far fetched.
Some context. John Sigler is not only a Saints' Beat writer, but he's a fan. And it's annoying that national writers overlook smaller market players...

And you can probably safely bet some in the Saints' locker room asked why his contemporaries failed to acknowledge Onyemata, and that's what motivated the article...

TheOak 06-24-2021 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922368)
Some context. John Sigler is not only a Saints' Beat writer, but he's a fan. And it's annoying that national writers overlook smaller market players...

And you can probably safely bet some in the Saints' locker room asked why his contemporaries failed to acknowledge Onyemata, and that's what motivated the article...
I get that JP. When I look around me, I see a lot of anger and most people need no more fuel. I might have headlined and showcased Onyemata's skill sets and talent then closed with "and yet he still didn't make Touchdown Wire's top 11 interior DL list". :bng:

AsylumGuido 06-24-2021 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 922363)
I’ve never understood the drivers for articles like this. If you want to write about how good a player is then do that, there is no need to frame it in controversy. Is the title intended to somehow trigger Onyemata?

The assumption that someone’s inability to recognize skill that another person sees is an intentional snub is pretty far fetched.
The writer of the article seldom, if ever, has a say in the title or headline of the article. Especially with a news service like USA Today. The title is intended to trigger clicks.

jeanpierre 06-24-2021 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922374)
The writer of the article seldom, if ever, has a say in the title or headline of the article. Especially with a news service like USA Today. The title is intended to trigger clicks.
#100Percent

And while most writers don't like to be characterized this way, they're basically mercenaries told write this many words re: this, from this angle...

They're passionate writers with ethics - a rare minority now...

Lord_Saint83 06-24-2021 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922361)
Everyone focused on Rankins, and I kept saying Onyemata was the better, more effective, and available defensive tackle...

Now light a fire under him and watch him start crushing quarterbacks as he did that time vs Cam Newton...

David Onyemata demolishes Cam Newton on sack: Saints vs Panthers NFL Wildcard - YouTube


Cam was clearly concussed. That bastard didn’t know which way was up

SmashMouth 06-24-2021 12:22 PM
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Yes, we do now live in a clickbait world. Yet, when you get past this ruffling of your feathers, there are morsels and nuggets of valuable insights that shed more light than the national medal is willing to admit or even take the time to understand. And as WhoDat fans, it reinforces our belief in and understanding of the team as it currently stands. This, and many more stories (new QB competition, etc), is precisely why this year is particularly interesting.

TheOak 06-24-2021 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922374)
The writer of the article seldom, if ever, has a say in the title or headline of the article. Especially with a news service like USA Today. The title is intended to trigger clicks.
Which, besides my piss poor spelling and grammar, is why I wouldn’t be a good fit for that career field. If my name goes on it, I own it. Movies aren’t entirely factual but they do get close enough to home, and I’ve seen enough to understand the Chief Editor takes his liberty to do what he is charged with, increase circulation. That title actually could lead someone to believe the author has an axe to grind with the other publication.

I don’t read much ESPN, CNN. Fox, USA Today, etc for precisely this reason. Obscure publications is where the transparency tends to reside.

AsylumGuido 06-24-2021 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 922386)
Which, besides my piss poor spelling and grammar, is why I wouldn’t be a good fit for that career field. If my name goes on it, I own it. Movies aren’t entirely factual but they do get close enough to home, and I’ve seen enough to understand the Chief Editor takes his liberty to do what he is charged with, increase circulation. That title actually could lead someone to believe the author has an axe to grind with the other publication.

I don’t read much ESPN, CNN. Fox, USA Today, etc for precisely this reason. Obscure publications is where the transparency tends to reside.
Sadly, it isn't even The Editor that generates the headlines. It could either be a copy editor or a layout designer. Back in my hard copy days the layout designer would come up with something that fit the space. It the new digital world it is different, but there's still someone that posts the story and provides the title/headline.

vpheughan 06-25-2021 02:50 PM
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And it's annoying that national writers overlook smaller market players...

Like Aaron Rodgers

The Green Bay Packers are located in the smallest media market of any NFL, NBA or MLB franchise. But despite its small size — the city has a population of just more than 100,000 people — the games are regularly sold out.

jeanpierre 06-26-2021 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 922378)
Cam was clearly concussed. That bastard didn’t know which way was up
And yet, the league ignored, at least suppressed, their own protocols...

Different rules for different players?

iceshack149 06-27-2021 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922414)
And yet, the league ignored, at least suppressed, their own protocols...

Different rules for different players?
Obviously...AND teams.

jeanpierre 06-27-2021 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 922435)
Obviously...AND teams.
When you look at total television markets, Saints are easily the smallest, but amongst the most loyal, in the country...

League tries to spin they're support for their favored small markets like Pittsburgh and Green Bay, but it's very deceptive...

Factor nearly all of West Virginia (Pittsburgh) or Milwaukee et al Wisconsin (Packers), those teams easily have Top 15 market size/share in the league...

And with Carolina, probably the fastest growing market in the country, they're now a Top 15 total market as well...

That's why those teams get a lot of favoritism from the league (schedule, rulings, etc) even in their down years...

jeanpierre 06-27-2021 12:33 PM
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Another example, see the name at the top of the list? Yet who's the featured player...

iceshack149 06-27-2021 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922442)
When you look at total television markets, Saints are easily the smallest, but amongst the most loyal, in the country...

League tries to spin they're support for their favored small markets like Pittsburgh and Green Bay, but it's very deceptive...

Factor nearly all of West Virginia (Pittsburgh) or Milwaukee et al Wisconsin (Packers), those teams easily have Top 15 market size/share in the league...

And with Carolina, probably the fastest growing market in the country, they're now a Top 15 total market as well...

That's why those teams get a lot of favoritism from the league (schedule, rulings, etc) even in their down years...
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a lot of northern Louisianna Cowboy's fans?

AsylumGuido 06-27-2021 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 922455)
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a lot of northern Louisianna Cowboy's fans?
Many years ago, yes, when they were actually good. But I have lived here in northwest Louisiana for 35 years. Everything east of us is solid Saints country. Here in the Shreveport/Bossier area the local station that carried NFC games was owned by a Cowboy's fan. He used to always choose to broadcast the Cowboys games over the Saints when both were broadcast at the same time. He always caught hell because of it. He finally relented and started a poll to ask viewers which game they would prefer if both were being aired at the same time. The Saints came out on top by a large margin in every occasion. After a couple of years he dropped the poll and went back to doing what he wanted.

I see Saints gear around here ten to one all year round. It did increase, of course, after the huge influx of Katrina transplants that stayed.

But, yes, there are Cowboys fans around here that also claim to be Saints fans. Which ever team is winning is the Cowpatty fan motto.

Rugby Saint II 06-29-2021 12:37 PM
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[QUOTE=TheOak;922386]If my name goes on it, I own it. Movies aren’t entirely factual but they do get close enough to home,

Kind of like the movie The Perfect Storm, which was based on a true story.....THEY LEFT THE DOCK.:p

The Dude 06-29-2021 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922374)
The writer of the article seldom, if ever, has a say in the title or headline of the article. Especially with a news service like USA Today. The title is intended to trigger clicks.
What’s worse is the fact that media outlets know the vast majority of people never read beyond the headlines. A lot of media outlets make you subscribe in order to read beyond the first paragraph. Not such a big deal in sports media but it’s being done more and more in news media which is kind of scary. If people don’t bother to read beyond the headlines as it is they sure as hell aren’t going to take the time to enter an email address even when it’s free.

AsylumGuido 06-29-2021 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 922529)
What’s worse is the fact that media outlets know the vast majority of people never read beyond the headlines. A lot of media outlets make you subscribe in order to read beyond the first paragraph. Not such a big deal in sports media but it’s being done more and more in news media which is kind of scary. If people don’t bother to read beyond the headlines as it is they sure as hell aren’t going to take the time to enter an email address even when it’s free.
Yup. Then they head straight out to their local forum and start declaring it as absolute truth.

jeanpierre 06-29-2021 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 922455)
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a lot of northern Louisianna Cowboy's fans?
And still are; word is there's a handful of diehards that make some noise...


Now, Katy, Texas and the The Woodlands - saw more LSU and Saints flags flying than UT, A&M, UHouston, Rice, or Texans flags...

AsylumGuido 06-29-2021 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922544)
And still are; word is there's a handful of diehards that make some noise...


Now, Katy, Texas and the The Woodlands - saw more LSU and Saints flags flying than UT, A&M, UHouston, Rice, or Texans flags...
Saints gear up here out-numbers Cowboys gear 10 to 1. The only time you see the "star" out in public is if they have strung together three wins in a row during the season ... and we all know how rare that is.

:D

I see multiple people every day wearing Saints gear all year round up here in Bossier, Shreveport, Ruston, Monroe, etc.

The Dude 06-30-2021 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 922532)
Yup. Then they head straight out to their local forum and start declaring it as absolute truth.
Yep. I see more and more news media sites doing it.


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