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WhoDat!656 07-04-2021 08:19 AM

Will the Saints make a run at Richard Sherman?
 
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...omment-7673225

jeanpierre 07-04-2021 10:00 AM

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Hope not. Like the Adebo pick and the depth we have behind him. Let that youngster play and get better right away...

I'd rather invest our limited cap space and make a run at WRz Golden Tate...

jnormand 07-04-2021 10:09 AM

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Dude there is reason he isn't signed yet. Please no Sherman. Colossal waste of cap room.

AsylumGuido 07-04-2021 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922735)
Hope not. Like the Adebo pick and the depth we have behind him. Let that youngster play and get better right away...

I'd rather invest our limited cap space and make a run at WRz Golden Tate...

You are assuming he wants to play in New Orleans. I heard him in an interview earlier this week and he mentioned some teams and/or scenarios that he would be interested in joining. The Saints were not among them. Free agency is always a two way street. It requires the player's desires as well as the team's. I was hoping the Saints would have been named, however.

Lord_Saint83 07-04-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 922736)
Dude there is reason he isn't signed yet. Please no Sherman. Colossal waste of cap room.


Agreed and like what someone posted on the site, it’s got Champ Bailey written all over it

WhoDat!656 07-04-2021 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 922738)
Agreed and like what someone posted on the site, it’s got Champ Bailey written all over it

My comment is the first one on the link.

Lord_Saint83 07-04-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 922741)
My comment is the first one on the link.



That’s cool, man

Audiotom 07-04-2021 03:35 PM

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Stay away from Sherman

He is a cancer

ChrisXVI 07-04-2021 03:52 PM

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I hope we do.

K Major 07-04-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922735)
Hope not. Like the Adebo pick and the depth we have behind him. Let that youngster play and get better right away...

Depth? Sorry I don't see it. I wouldn't rule out the Saints attempting to make a trade for a #2 CB either. Names that make sense in FA are Nelson, Sherman or former 1st rounder Conley. No secret we love "The Ohio State" players & all of these guys fill a serious need.

I'm not in the camp for relying on a rookie aka Mr. Mansfield. Remember this kid hasn't played football in almost 2 seasons. The NFL is a pass happy league now. If he loses confidence, it's over. Not sure if that's fair to him either.

Personally, I don't care who they sign but we need another veteran corner on those boundaries.

jeanpierre 07-04-2021 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 922749)
Depth? Sorry I don't see it. I wouldn't rule out the Saints attempting to make a trade for a #2 CB either. Names that make sense in FA are Nelson, Sherman or former 1st rounder Conley. No secret we love "The Ohio State" players & all of these guys fill a serious need.

I'm not in the camp for relying on a rookie aka Mr. Mansfield. Remember this kid hasn't played football in almost 2 seasons. The NFL is a pass happy league now. If he loses confidence, it's over. Not sure if that's fair to him either.

Personally, I don't care who they sign but we need another veteran corner on those boundaries.

Same depth we had couple of seasons; if it was good enough to be considered a Superbowl contender, why not now?

Rugby Saint II 07-05-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922751)
Same depth we had couple of seasons; if it was good enough to be considered a Superbowl contender, why not now?

Janoris Jenkins isn't here anymore. I agree that we need a veteran corner.

gosaints1 07-05-2021 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 922755)
Janoris Jenkins isn't here anymore. I agree that we need a veteran corner.

Agreed, equating an unknown in Adebo with a known in Jenkins, as a reason for not filling the CB2 with a veteran worries me quite a bit. But the “depth” jp is talking about is pretty much the same. I’m on record for saying “play the young guys you draft” but a corner’s psyche can be a finicky creature. If he’s demonstrably ready, then play him, if not…, I’d prefer to not have the ‘let’s hope for the best’ philosophy and instead find a solid veteran CB2. And it will more than likely be too late the longer we wait.

I’m still of the mindset that our three greatest needs are on the defensive side of ball.

1) Janoris Jenkin’s replacement

2) Kwon Alexander’s replacement

3) Malcolm Brown’s replacement.

Adebo is well thought of though:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...-db/ar-AALAIfW

Edit: Grammar

jeanpierre 07-05-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 922755)
Janoris Jenkins isn't here anymore. I agree that we need a veteran corner.

Can't be veterans if they don't play; we're strong at a number of positions on defense right now and that's an opportune time to phase a rookie into the lineup...

Think of it as taking one step back to take two steps forward...

RailBoss 07-05-2021 12:20 PM

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I think the ship has sailed for Sherman, once the calf and achilles injuries start piling up it's starts the beginning of the end.

Rugby Saint II 07-05-2021 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 922760)
Can't be veterans if they don't play; we're strong at a number of positions on defense right now and that's an opportune time to phase a rookie into the lineup...

Think of it as taking one step back to take two steps forward...

I like the way you think JP.

K Major 07-14-2021 10:27 AM

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Richard Sherman arrested on domestic violence charge in Seattle, denied bail :rolleyes:.

I'm gonna go and scratch Sherman off the list of possible FA "candidates" for the Saints.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ge-denied-bail

jnormand 07-14-2021 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923010)
Richard Sherman arrested on domestic violence charge in Seattle, denied bail :rolleyes:. I'm gonna go off and "scratch" Sherman from the FA Saints list.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ge-denied-bail

Oops. Guess we end this thread. Lol

K Major 07-14-2021 10:39 AM

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Cue the Dre' Kirkpatrick thread :p.

MatthewT 07-14-2021 11:05 AM

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Ken Crawley looking like a gem now, excellent signing! LOL

neugey 07-14-2021 11:38 AM

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So much for Saint Sherman!

Rugby Saint II 07-14-2021 12:26 PM

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I guess he got tired of his wife telling him to get a job.

EDIT: I didn't mean to offend anyone in the me too movement. I am a non binary male.:D

rezburna 07-14-2021 12:28 PM

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After looking over the list of available corners, I’d sign Gareon Conley. Pair him back up with Lattimore.

Rugby Saint II 07-14-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 923038)
After looking over the list of available corners, I’d sign Gareon Conley. Pair him back up with Lattimore.

From what I've read Conley would best suit DA's system of the remaining CB's out there. I've actually been hoping we would sign him over Sherman. It's still quite likely that we bring in someone after cuts but that's not very reassuring. We need to get a deal done with Lattimore because he's good and will hopefully continue to trend up but also the cost savings would let us afford a critical player or two.

K Major 07-14-2021 03:41 PM

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Dre Kirkpatrick stopped in for a visit a few weeks back so ...

CB#2 competition (or lackthereof) will be very interesting as camp approaches. Not to mention we won't have Lattimore for a few games to start the season.

Here's to hoping our pass rush brings their A game.

ChrisXVI 07-14-2021 03:46 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-14-2021 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923046)
Dre Kirkpatrick stopped in for a visit a few weeks back so ...

CB#2 competition (or lackthereof) will be very interesting as camp approaches. Not to mention we won't have Lattimore for a few games to start the season.

Here's to hoping our pass rush brings their A game.

We don't know this yet. I have yet to see any further pursuit of any prosecution from Ohio as of yet.

K Major 07-14-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923049)
We don't know this yet. I have yet to see any further pursuit of any prosecution from Ohio as of yet.

Lattimore could be cleared of the charges no doubt.

But don't forget the Clown commish. I hadn't read any updates out of the NFL personal conduct policy as of late, however they can still take action (suspension) even if he does not result in a criminal conviction.

AsylumGuido 07-14-2021 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923050)
Lattimore could be cleared of the charges no doubt.

But don't forget the Clown commish. I hadn't read any updates out of the NFL personal conduct policy as of late, however they can still take action (suspension) even if he does not result in a criminal conviction.

Perhaps, but Goodell's early method of shooting from the hip on discipline has mellowed recently to wait and see. It could be a year from now before anything at all happens in the courts with Lattimore. This could be more of a 2022 issue if it results in an issue at all.

Of course, it may just be the eternal optimist in me. It's got me to this point in my life so I'll just keep rockin' it.

:D

iceshack149 07-14-2021 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923051)
Perhaps, but Goodell's early method of shooting from the hip on discipline has mellowed recently to wait and see. It could be a year from now before anything at all happens in the courts with Lattimore. This could be more of a 2022 issue if it results in an issue at all.

Of course, it may just be the eternal optimist in me. It's got me to this point in my life so I'll just keep rockin' it.

:D


It seemed like he was winging it when disciplining teams last year regarding the "Covid Protocols".

K Major 07-14-2021 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 923047)

One can only imagine what the Fins are wanting in trade compensation for Howard, however it seems pretty clear that he wants out of South Beach or a new ($$) contract.

RailBoss 07-14-2021 07:24 PM

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Lol..........

SmashMouth 07-14-2021 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 923038)
After looking over the list of available corners, I’d sign Gareon Conley. Pair him back up with Lattimore.

Let's wait until final cuts, shall we? There has to be some depth we can pick then, whether young talent or a veteran.

jeanpierre 07-14-2021 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923013)
Cue the Dre' Kirkpatrick thread :p.

https://media.giphy.com/media/HP7mtf...NbNL/giphy.gif

jeanpierre 07-14-2021 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923055)
One can only imagine what the Fins are wanting in trade compensation for Howard, however it seems pretty clear that he wants out of South Beach or a new ($$) contract.

Know Flores is from the Belichick Coaching Tree with the mantra that all are replaceable, but they'd be fools after their improvement for the Fish not to pay him...

You pay Elite Quarterbacks and Shut-down Cornerbacks - it is what it is...

rezburna 07-14-2021 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 923060)
Let's wait until final cuts, shall we? There has to be some depth we can pick then, whether young talent or a veteran.

True enough.

WhoDat!656 07-14-2021 09:28 PM

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Already posted

subguy 07-15-2021 12:44 AM

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I am glad the incident occurred before we made a move.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard...harge-seattle/

Hopefully this gets sorted out...

neugey 07-15-2021 11:06 AM

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I think that police dog might be about the last thing making a run at Sherman LOL

AsylumGuido 07-15-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 923052)
It seemed like he was winging it when disciplining teams last year regarding the "Covid Protocols".

How so?


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