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Hill vs Winston | The battle for QB1 – New Orleans Saints Offense Game Tape Breakdown by Kurt Warner
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I understand Kurt Warner's apprehension about both QB's. His film breakdown clarifies why most people are still afraid that our future QB is not actually on the team right now. Book is still a big question mark and doesn't figure into the equation.
I was beginning to feel more comfortable with Jameis but that's gone now. Thanks Kurt. :roll: |
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Cue up the Ian Book tape. I think he could easily be the best west-coast style QB on our team after a little time with the playbook.
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Jameis will remain the same. Hill will be player of the year.
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I think he'd be interesting to watch with a little time to develop. |
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Here is a good listen from Archie Manning on Jameis Winston ...
Fast forward to around 11:14 or so. https://www.audacy.com/wwl/local-spo...ey-archie-says |
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Kurt Warner is a douche that has never been able to hide the fact that he dislikes the Saints.
It wouldst mater if he proclaimed us the 2021 SB standouts, I don't have time for him. |
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Archie Manning
THOUGHTS ON JAMEIS WINSTON AS HE BATTLES TO BE NEXT SAINTS QB "A lot of people ask me, and I sense some people in the community doubt Jameis. I don’t — I don’t. I think Jameis can do the job. I know Jameis is mature enough now to know the opportunity that he has here, and it’s a great opportunity. And I look for him to take advantage of it.” When someone repeats themselves "I don't - I don't" it is often likely they are trying to convince themselves(meaning they're really NOT sure). Or it could be emphasis to be politically correct. After all he's got a grandson headed to nfl in the not too distant future. My take... BS. |
Re: Hill vs Winston | The battle for QB1 – New Orleans Saints Offense Game Tape Breakdown by Kurt Warner
Nobody can guarantee that any of the qbs drafted this year will be successful. Even Trevor Lawrence, who knows, he has not played a down in the nfl and might be the next big bust. Nobody can guarantee that this isnt the year brady or rodgers takes a big dive in performance due to age, as Peyton Manning went straight from one of his best seasons to his last. So nothing is guaranteed with any nfl qb. I would rather have maholmes than hill or winston, but would not be shocked if maholmes recent accumulation of hits starts to add up, or if his receivers get hurt and we find out having kelce and lots of deep threats was key to his production. Watson would have been the second best qb bet long term, but now he has legal issues. Probably neither hill or winston will become top franchise qbs because most dont, but EVERY qb can be doubted, some just have more potential to show or continue showing.
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Re: Hill vs Winston | The battle for QB1 – New Orleans Saints Offense Game Tape Breakdown by Kurt Warner
I agree with the posters who like the skill set that Book brings to the Saints at the QB position. He has the opportunity to learn under a great offensive minded coach who played QB himself...albeit not very well. Ya'll know the old saying that those who can't teach. Fortunately coach doesn't need a strong arm himself. He's a mad scientist that has great organizational skills to manage the team in the most efficient way. My hats off to the influence of Bill Parcells "The Tuna" on giving Payton the unique vision that he incorporated heavily into his management and player selection approach to running an elite organization.
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I can’t wait to watch Winston lead this team on a playoff run this year.
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I'd expect more of the same if Winston has similar success against his former team. |
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I. What is Repetition? Quite simply, repetition is the repeating of a word or phrase. It is a common rhetorical device used to add emphasis and stress in writing and speech. ... Repetition is an important literary device because it allows a writer or speaker to place emphasis on things they choose as significant. Not sure where the heck you came up with the "politically correct" angle. :confused: |
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I'm not sure how hard he's worked and I'm not sure that anyone else does either. If you really watched the video you saw a lot of bad decisions being made (by Hill as well) that I really hope can be corrected, but it's not going to be by himself, it's going to be by coaching and study. Yes, obviously part of that depends on him, but if you think it's entirely on him I think that's silly. I think both Hill and Winston need coaching up, that and Sean coming up with the right game plan for either one is what it's going to take to keep our playoff streak going and possibly do better. I am equally disappointed seeing "he will!!" and "he can't!!" posts, isn't it reasonable to have some doubt given the evidence either way? |
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I want to say Jacksonville, Chicago, WFT & San Diego were a few of those teams calling. |
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https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2020...contract-news/ |
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Obviously he wanted to be here, get coached up and learn the small details from a legend. JW is a smart guy & bet on himself. If he balls, he gets paid, if he flops the Saints move on. No biggie. It's big boy, production driven business. Enjoy the 2021 season. |
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Using Nick Underhill’s premiss “Theoretical Winston vs Theoretical Hill” Winston is the winner. I tend to agree but I also think it will come down to can this team operate with same level of efficiency not having Hill playing all the multiple roles he has over the last 3 years. Might not be Hill stated goal but he brings much more value to the team being everywhere man than being the starting QB and in the end it’s about the team.
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Underhill is that rare smart, respected journalist with an under the radar good working relationship with Sean; Sean is likely tipping his hand via Underhill...
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Originally I didn't even want Winston on my team. To me his history was scary both on and off the field. Eating the W is still sharp in my mind but I'm willing to give the young man a chance to prove me wrong and redeem himself to the NFL and viewers. He's apparently worked hard under Drew and Payton to fix his short comings. He got his eyes fixed and that could alleviate a lot of his bad decisions with a clearer view of the field. Studying film under Drew though has to be the best thing for him to get away from bad decision making because maybe now he actually understands the concepts learned from hours alongside a future HOF'er.
I'm not dismissing Hill. I love that guy and what he brings to the team with his infectious enthusiasm and his Swiss army knife role on the offense and special teams. I've seen him QB a few games and my feeling is that he has reached his ceiling as a QB but he is still a valuable chess piece for Payton. |
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I’m excited about the prospect of a RB based offense and a stud possession guy like CGM coupled with QBs that can truly air the ball out. I hope/expect
to see more gadget/easy TDs like the one in the Tampa Playoff game. I’d have a WR run a fly or deep post EVERY PLAY and throw it to Calloway or Smith any time they were single covered. They’d have to guard against it and it would open up TE routes all over. |
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Whether it's Taysom or Jameis under center, being in sync with Alvin Kamara will be critical in this offense.
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Offensively, still a lot of options. |
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