CB Xavien Howard... should we?

lee909 · 07-17-2021, 08:47 PM

No way for a 1st.
He's being paid 12ml a year, and wants a rise. He signed a 5 year deal and wants it upped after 2 years. This team needs a influx of cheaper rookie deals not shipping them out for a player wanting a 15ml+ a year deal

K Major · 07-17-2021, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

No way for a 1st.
He's being paid 12ml a year, and wants a rise. He signed a 5 year deal and wants it upped after 2 years. This team needs a influx of cheaper rookie deals not shipping them out for a player wanting a 15ml+ a year deal

That number doesn't tell the entire story. Contracts are nuanced and intricate. If you look at his contract closely, 2021 is his last year of guaranteed money. Next three seasons = 0 guarantees on his contract, hence why he asking for a new deal.

Some think the Fins want a "1st", but say the Saints could swing the deal for a 2nd & package a player that would be golden. If you can land Xavien in NO, I'm sure Loomis could always restructure his deal & offer him more guaranteed money ... Ultimately, this is why he wants a new deal in South Beach. Nothing is guaranteed with Lattimore long term in New Orleans.

XH is a baller (led the league in INTS) but probably a long shot however I'd still make the call

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Due Diligence.

jeanpierre · 07-18-2021, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

No way for a 1st.
He's being paid 12ml a year, and wants a rise. He signed a 5 year deal and wants it upped after 2 years. This team needs a influx of cheaper rookie deals not shipping them out for a player wanting a 15ml+ a year deal

And there it is - Howard wants a sliding scale contract such that he's the highest paid CB in the NFL...

Per Over The Cap, we're ($37,647,048) over in 2022 of the current projected number which is probably lower than what it will be...

But it's still in the ball park and Payton just had Loomis do the Washington Two-Step with the budget so there's not a lot of money to roll forward...again...

Make no mistake, there will be some cuts to some prominent names on this roster next season, some that some could argue should've happened this season...

But committing to a now 28yo Howard means not extending what will be a 26yo Lattimore...

As much as we'd like to be All-Pro at every position, the Free Market (Free Agency) and a Salary Cap won't allow it...

Saints got a steal in Adebo; the caveat is Sean will have to act like it's 2017 again and start rookies, let learn, gain experience, get better...

Not disagreeing that a 28yo Howard isn't worth a 1st, but what's the cost? the overall, final costs?

07-17-2021, 08:47 PM	#1
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CB Xavien Howard... should we? Originally Posted by lee909 No way for a 1st. He's being paid 12ml a year, and wants a rise. He signed a 5 year deal and wants it upped after 2 years. This team needs a influx of cheaper rookie deals not shipping them out for a player wanting a 15ml+ a year deal That number doesn't tell the entire story. Contracts are nuanced and intricate. If you look at his contract closely, 2021 is his last year of guaranteed money. Next three seasons = 0 guarantees on his contract, hence why he asking for a new deal. Some think the Fins want a "1st", but say the Saints could swing the deal for a 2nd & package a player that would be golden. If you can land Xavien in NO, I'm sure Loomis could always restructure his deal & offer him more guaranteed money ... Ultimately, this is why he wants a new deal in South Beach. Nothing is guaranteed with Lattimore long term in New Orleans. XH is a baller (led the league in INTS) but probably a long shot however I'd still make the call . Due Diligence. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

07-18-2021, 12:12 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: CB Xavien Howard... should we? Originally Posted by lee909 No way for a 1st. He's being paid 12ml a year, and wants a rise. He signed a 5 year deal and wants it upped after 2 years. This team needs a influx of cheaper rookie deals not shipping them out for a player wanting a 15ml+ a year deal And there it is - Howard wants a sliding scale contract such that he's the highest paid CB in the NFL... Per Over The Cap, we're ($37,647,048) over in 2022 of the current projected number which is probably lower than what it will be... But it's still in the ball park and Payton just had Loomis do the Washington Two-Step with the budget so there's not a lot of money to roll forward...again... Make no mistake, there will be some cuts to some prominent names on this roster next season, some that some could argue should've happened this season... But committing to a now 28yo Howard means not extending what will be a 26yo Lattimore... As much as we'd like to be All-Pro at every position, the Free Market (Free Agency) and a Salary Cap won't allow it... Saints got a steal in Adebo; the caveat is Sean will have to act like it's 2017 again and start rookies, let learn, gain experience, get better... Not disagreeing that a 28yo Howard isn't worth a 1st, but what's the cost? the overall, final costs? jnormand and SmashMouth like this.
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