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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 10:52 AM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 11:16 AM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 11:20 AM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 11:20 AM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 11:25 AM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 11:28 AM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 11:34 AM

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#TradeForCooks


SmashMouth 08-05-2021 11:44 AM

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SmashMouth 08-05-2021 11:51 AM

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SmashMouth 08-05-2021 11:56 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-05-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 924280)
By that logic, thirty-one other franchises are wasting a roster spot...

My logic clearly escaped you. Which of those 31 franchises has a player able to do all of the things that Hill can accomplish? That's right. None of them. Hill is too valuable to be wasted as a game manager. And I am FAR from being the only one that feels that way. I'm Team Taysom, too.

SmashMouth 08-05-2021 12:11 PM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 12:14 PM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 12:16 PM

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My logic clearly escaped you. Which of those 31 franchises has a player able to do all of the things that Hill can accomplish? That's right. None of them. Hill is too valuable to be wasted as a game manager. And I am FAR from being the only one that feels that way. I'm Team Taysom, too.


jeanpierre 08-05-2021 12:21 PM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 12:24 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-05-2021 12:28 PM

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As I said, tie goes to Winston for the good of the team. That said, I agree with Charlie Weis who said he has no doubt that Payton already knows exactly who is going to be the starter and has known since before training camp ever started. The 2021 playbook is going to be designed for the starter. Or should we say has already been designed for the starter. Weis also said it is important when making a a decision on a starting QB to not have it affect the locker room. He said regardless of whether you already know in your mind who is going to be the starter you have to make it seem as much like a competition as is possible.

jeanpierre 08-05-2021 12:47 PM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 12:51 PM

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As I said, tie goes to Winston for the good of the team. That said, I agree with Charlie Weis who said he has no doubt that Payton already knows exactly who is going to be the starter and has known since before training camp ever started. The 2021 playbook is going to be designed for the starter. Or should we say has already been designed for the starter. Weis also said it is important when making a a decision on a starting QB to not have it affect the locker room. He said regardless of whether you already know in your mind who is going to be the starter you have to make it seem as much like a competition as is possible.

...citing the coach who failed miserably at both ND and Kansas...

AsylumGuido 08-05-2021 12:58 PM

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...citing the coach who failed miserably at both ND and Kansas...

And has multiple Super Bowl rings. But, haters gonna hate.

jeanpierre 08-05-2021 01:05 PM

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And has multiple Super Bowl rings. But, haters gonna hate.

Lots of folks who worked for Bill Belichick have rings, how many did he win on his own?

#Facts

jeanpierre 08-05-2021 01:09 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-05-2021 01:10 PM

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Lots of folks who worked for Bill Belichick have rings, how many did he win on his own?

#Facts

He has said many times that he played a minor role as did everyone involved. But, the guy knows quite a bit about the game ... on and off the field.

K Major 08-05-2021 01:25 PM

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Not a good look for Hurst. That’s our back up left tackle giving up a lot of sacks today. Gotta do better.

Great for Davenport though.

AsylumGuido 08-05-2021 01:55 PM

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Not a good look for Hurst. That’s our back up left tackle giving up a lot of sacks today. Gotta do better.

Great for Davenport though.

I have a feeling that tackles all across the league are going to be having issues trying to contain Mr. Davenport this season.

jeanpierre 08-05-2021 02:07 PM

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Not a good look for Hurst. That’s our back up left tackle giving up a lot of sacks today. Gotta do better.

Great for Davenport though.

Hurst would seem to have more value as a LG where he can be protected, than on the edge...

halloween 65 08-05-2021 02:29 PM

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Hurst would seem to have more value as a LG where he can be protected, than on the edge...

I think that's very true.

jeanpierre 08-05-2021 02:47 PM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 02:49 PM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 03:01 PM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 03:08 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-05-2021 03:34 PM

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I guess it really depends upon who is making the decision, right? Personally I believe that decision has been in the books already. But it is certainly not anyone simply watching.

K Major 08-05-2021 04:12 PM

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Hadn’t seen it mentioned …

Christian Ringo (DT) has made the most with 1st team reps. I think it was John Hendrix or Underhill saying he’s stood out so far. Same goes for Jalen Dalton.

It sucks not having David O for 6 games but I think the D line depth will be solid in 2021.

AsylumGuido 08-05-2021 05:12 PM

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Hadn’t seen it mentioned …

Christian Ringo (DT) has made the most with 1st team reps. I think it was John Hendrix or Underhill saying he’s stood out so far. Same goes for Jalen Dalton.

It sucks not having David O for 6 games but I think the D line depth will be solid in 2021.

Yup. I think we'll be fine at D-line for the beginning. We are being greatly underestimated by many outside and more expectedly those that are inside (aka fans). We are going to shock the talking heads.

20-0 Baby!

:bng:

SmashMouth 08-05-2021 05:12 PM

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jeanpierre 08-05-2021 05:34 PM

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saintsfan1976 08-05-2021 06:47 PM

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I saw an image of our new DEs together in practice. It's menacing. Tall, long arms and heavy. I read somewhere Granderson is pushing 275lb now??

jeanpierre 08-05-2021 07:08 PM

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jeanpierre 08-06-2021 08:18 AM

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Boston Saint 08-06-2021 10:13 AM

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Hadn’t seen it mentioned …

Christian Ringo (DT) has made the most with 1st team reps. I think it was John Hendrix or Underhill saying he’s stood out so far. Same goes for Jalen Dalton.

It sucks not having David O for 6 games but I think the D line depth will be solid in 2021.

Now John, Paul and George need to step up and all will be good ! 😁


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