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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You mean they change the ballots? What do they have to gain by doing that? How it's presented is a big part of it; placement of the candidates in the ballots, peripheral imaging (i.e. Tom Brady ...

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Old 08-23-2021, 12:25 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
You mean they change the ballots? What do they have to gain by doing that?
How it's presented is a big part of it; placement of the candidates in the ballots, peripheral imaging (i.e. Tom Brady celebrating at the top of a ballot)...
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
How it's presented is a big part of it; placement of the candidates in the ballots, peripheral imaging (i.e. Tom Brady celebrating at the top of a ballot)...
Just to show how bogus it truly is, here is an article explaining the process in 2013. There are no names at all on the ballots. Basically it sounds like there are 20 blank lines that some of the players decide to fill in by hand with names from the top of their head. Makes sense Ramczyk didn't make it. Nobody knew how to spell his name. LOL! Hopefully they have made it more meaningful by now.

Inside the Top 100 voting process

Posted by Mike Florio on May 5, 2013, 8:06 AM EDT

Every year at this time, NFL Network fills the post-draft void with a countdown of the top 100 players in the NFL, as determined by the players.

But the players do some strange things, like putting Ravens receiver Jacoby Jones higher on the list than Seahawks receiver Percy Harvin. And when we pointed that out on Friday, Eagles linebacker Connor Barwin said via Twitter, “[E]veryone knows no players actually vote for who’s on that list right?”

Our buddy Pat McAfee, who punts for the Colts, chimed in that he “[l]ove[s] this tweet.”

So we asked NFL Network to explain the process, and to confirm that players indeed cast ballots for the list.

Ideally, all players would do it. This year, the league says only 481 of them actually did. That’s 28.3 percent of all active players.

“All players are given the opportunity to vote through ballots we send to all 32 teams around Thanksgiving,” NFL Network spokesman Alex Riethmiller told PFT via email. “For convenience sake, we try to time it with Pro Bowl balloting, so they can do them together. In addition to ballots collected that way, we also give ballots to many of the players that we interview for our shows. This year, in total, we received 481 votes.”

To vote, each player lists only his top 20 players in the league. The player listed at No. 1 gets 20 points, the player listed at No. 2 gets 19 points, and the process continues until the player listed at No. 20 gets one point.

So it’s really not a “top 100” list. It’s the 100 players who received the highest vote totals from players who attempted to list their personal top 20, presumably without the benefit of all 32 rosters or starting lineups or Pro Bowl qualifiers or anything else that would ensure they aren’t accidentally overlooking someone as they pull 20 names out of thin air.

The voting period extended from late November 2012 through early April 2013. That range undoubtedly accounts for Jones getting more points than Harvin. During those months, Harvin didn’t play at all; Jones was responsible for postseason heroics in Denver and New Orleans, where he arguably should have been named Super Bowl MVP.

So when giving a player a piece of paper and saying, “List your top 20 NFL players,” chances are that any ballots cast in February, March, and April would have had Jones higher than the out-of-sight-out-of-mind Harvin.

Regardless, that outcome shows that, for the list to be more credible in the future, the process needs to improve. Preferably, the league would come up with a computer-based ballot that makes it easy — and fun — for players to drag and drop names into their own list of one through not 20 players but 100 players.

While there’s no guarantee that more than 481 players would do it, those who choose to spend the time presumably would be more conscientious than those who scribble down the names of the first 20 great players who come to mind while sitting in the locker room or hanging out in an NFLN green room.

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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