USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

It's funny how money can change someone's mind.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

He wanted MORE than 4 years and 70 million?

Sorry but if Williams wants anything close to this deal, I'd say "bye Felicia."

That's ridiculous money for a safety. Darren Sharper was a game changer and a ball hawk and I still don't know if he would be worth that. (Apparently he was also a rapist and drug enthusiast too.) Just saying.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

How much of a whiff-on-a-SB-ticket-punching-play discount do we get? :bng:
:bugeyes:
:biggun:

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Get over it, nobody was gonna beat the Eagles that year. Nobody.
I’m not convinced we would have beaten NY in 2011 either.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

We'll never know, will we?

Why didn't Coach SP know the rulebook like BB with regards to penalties at the end of the game? Ultimately, it's in his lap.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Without Coach SP we wouldn't have been in the position to begin with.

Right?

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Penalty is a penalty shouldn't matter when it happens. And it wasn't that he didn't know the rule Refs are allowed to operate in a different facet than players/coaches

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

We def would have beat the Eagles don't believe the hype. And 2011 don't get me started that SB would have been better than 2009 after that Safnran game. Marcus Williams is a Blue Chip player and their aren't replacements just walking around that can do what he does. Someone made of joke of this missed tackles what have you don for me lately and he didn't miss many last year. His style of play is way more valuable than Adam's we had Roman Harper laying his role NEITHER can cover. I rather go with the cover safety than the limited Blitzer if you ask me Adam's got overpaid

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

We were trying to run out the clock. A coach can tell his team to commit a certain penalty to trigger the clock to run down. If SP knew the rulebook like BB, we win both games, Minihaha miracle AND the PI no call Lambs game. Those plays then never would have made history since they wouldn't have existed. BB used that in a game and won a game for NE, even though they were ahead by a lot.

Belichick exploited “loophole” in NFL rules to run extra time off the clock

Comments in the article are priceless. :bugeyes:

In both those games, we were merely trying to run off less than 30 seconds which we could have easily done a little earlier when we had to punt.

Now as far as the Whiners' game, that's just plain stupidity in not covering Vernon Davis better. So that's THREE games that should have earned us SB berths. How many of those would we have won? We've been speculating since. Most argue that we were the juggernaut in those three years. So who knows. But I reckon the Saints would have won at least one more Tiffany.

Now the year SP was suspended, that was plain wrong of Herr Kommissar Goodell. It's well documented every team did, and many continue to do, the very same incentivisations to win games. Now that we have gambling allowed, we'll see unfold in all likelihood many permutations of this throughout the league. Those that think games are fixed will have plenty more fodder with which to banter this subject. :popcorn:

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

I like Marcus but he’s not getting Jamal Adams type money.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Marcus needs to ball (Micah Fitzpatrick level) out in 2021 ... then he and his agent can make a case to ask for top dollar. Even though they play different positions, Jamal is an All Pro & has made immediate impression on the back end.

Tag #2 wouldn't surprise me either.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

If you told me we could sign Marcus Williams for the money Jamal Adams just signed for, I would say we got a steal. I'm surprised Adams didn't go for more.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

He tried. The Seahawks weren't budging.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Our defense wouldn’t have faired any better against the Eagles. It was just their year. They had the football Gods on their side that year kind of like we did in 09.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

If you told we could have signed/drafted more LSU talent and come out ahead, I would say we snookered the rest of the league. Countless CB, LB, etc we could've had for less draft capital. Jamal is just the latest example from DBU.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Kwon said he was recruited hard by Davis. Thank you for #56.
Not surprised at all with Clapp.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

+1.

I'd make a case for the LSU WR group too. A lot of these guys are either ELITE or very good on Sundays. Odell Jr, Chark, Justin Jefferson, LaFell etc. Marshall & Chase (rookies) have the potential too. I really thought we were going to snag Jarvis Landry (2014 draft) but we chose some dude with the fancy french name :rolleyes:. Stanley Jean Baptiste ... probably Pace's worst draft selection ever.

I'm really impressed at how a lot of the skill players (WR, CB & LB) down in Baton Rouge transition so well to the NFL.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Well, if there is any consolation, Pace is crafting his talents in Chitown. There is a God after all. :bng:

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Chase had a nightmare start yesterday. Three targets and three drops.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Tre White

Marshon Lattimore

Does this mean we resign Lattimore for less than Tre White, even though Lattimore was drafted a lot earlier than Tre was?

What if we had not gotten Lattimore and gotten Tre instead in that same draft? I know we can armchair the draft all day long. Maybe it's not fair. But that's what we can and should do as fans. And it is what it is in terms of the pro production of players from Bama, Ohio St and LSU. We've managed to succeed more than other teams with UDFA players. I think it just proves it's foolish to move up and overpay, unless it's for a Mahomes type of player. Lattimore worked out for us. Why he decided to get involved and get caught with his gun toting posse is beyond me. Maybe we get discount next year?

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

... as in an alternate reality that we still wouldn't know the result. But "what is" is the reality and what we have to deal with now. Eyes forward. Let's win us another Lombardi!

20-0 Baby!

:bng:

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Ramz is the real deal... based on where we drafted him, no one wanted him before. This means we could have made different chess moves in the draft. Still can't really complain with the result in that draft.

We drafted Al Woods in the 5th round. We cut him promptly and he managed a 12 year NFL career on the DL.

Since Pace has been gone and Ireland joined the team, our decisions have been mostly spot on. Still don't like moving up with what it costs us. :bng:

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

What if we were New England fans. We would have had it made for the last 18 years.

Re: USA Today/SaintsWire | Marcus Williams will benefit from Jamal Adams’ blockbuster Seahawks deal
 

Still think we got the better end of the Graham trade.