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AsylumGuido 08-28-2021 04:19 PM
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LOL!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E96CZ9zX...pg&name=medium

AsylumGuido 08-28-2021 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 926987)
How about free speech, free press, Bearing arms, free assembly, Practice of religion. I suppose those should just go away because the government says so too Guido ?
And what does any of that have to do with requiring proof of vaccination for travel? Show me where the Constitution or the Bill of Rights states that citizens are free to openly spread disease solely because they do not want to be inconvenienced.

Exactly what Right has the government said "should just go away," Boston?

Flipx99 08-28-2021 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 926993)
And what does any of that have to do with requiring proof of vaccination for travel? Show me where the Constitution or the Bill of Rights states that citizens are free to openly spread disease solely because they do not want to be inconvenienced.

Exactly what Right has the government said "should just go away," Boston?
The right to travel is recognized as a fundamental liberty. The government can't infringe upon that right simply by making **** up like you are doing when you say, 'Show me where you have the right to infect people with Covid."

You are pretending that anyone who does not have vaccine papers is infectious, and anyone who does have them is not.

That's not a position based on logic. Furthermore, vaccine passport type policies completely ignore that some citizens are not even eligible to take the vaccine (children), some should not have the vaccine pursuant to CDC guidance (those who have had Covid within the last 90 days), and still others who have opted not to get the vaccine after consulting with their physicians.

And that's before we even get to the question of why we are giving such a priority to immunity gained through vaccination over immunity gained naturally. That is a significant question given that roughly 60% of our population has likely already been infected and the science is not at all clear that vaccines for such people will afford greater immunity or that it will be safe for such people.

Weak people love to turn to government to control other people as well as themselves.

Guido, in your spare time you should read the Gulag Archipelago and Ordinary Men. They both serve as warnings about how easily people become sheep.

Rugby Saint II 08-29-2021 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flipx99 (Post 927016)
The right to travel is recognized as a fundamental liberty. The government can't infringe upon that right simply by making **** up like you are doing when you say, 'Show me where you have the right to infect people with Covid."

You are pretending that anyone who does not have vaccine papers is infectious, and anyone who does have them is not.

That's not a position based on logic. Furthermore, vaccine passport type policies completely ignore that some citizens are not even eligible to take the vaccine (children), some should not have the vaccine pursuant to CDC guidance (those who have had Covid within the last 90 days), and still others who have opted not to get the vaccine after consulting with their physicians.

And that's before we even get to the question of why we are giving such a priority to immunity gained through vaccination over immunity gained naturally. That is a significant question given that roughly 60% of our population has likely already been infected and the science is not at all clear that vaccines for such people will afford greater immunity or that it will be safe for such people.

Weak people love to turn to government to control other people as well as themselves.

Guido, in your spare time you should read the Gulag Archipelago and Ordinary Men. They both serve as warnings about how easily people become sheep.
That sounds like what is called culling the herd.

OldMaid 08-30-2021 10:40 PM
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Best possible solution to this craziness. Odd times we are in.

Boston Saint 08-31-2021 05:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 926993)

Exactly what Right has the government said "should just go away," Boston?
Is this a serious question? Are you blind? You must not be a person that attends Church much for starters.

For you to even ask this question shows that you do not take the issue seriously, support government control of the people, or are in fact mentally impaired. (Could be all three).

AsylumGuido 08-31-2021 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 927164)
Is this a serious question? Are you blind? You must not be a person that attends Church much for starters.

For you to even ask this question shows that you do not take the issue seriously, support government control of the people, or are in fact mentally impaired. (Could be all three).

First of all, I not only attend church AND Sunday school regularly, but am also on the the church council, volunteer for mission fundraising, help with the food pantry, etc.

Secondly, you completely ignored my very specific question. I can only assume you had no answer. Just as I suspected.

AsylumGuido 08-31-2021 07:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flipx99 (Post 927016)
The right to travel is recognized as a fundamental liberty. The government can't infringe upon that right simply by making **** up like you are doing when you say, 'Show me where you have the right to infect people with Covid."

You are pretending that anyone who does not have vaccine papers is infectious, and anyone who does have them is not.

That's not a position based on logic. Furthermore, vaccine passport type policies completely ignore that some citizens are not even eligible to take the vaccine (children), some should not have the vaccine pursuant to CDC guidance (those who have had Covid within the last 90 days), and still others who have opted not to get the vaccine after consulting with their physicians.

And that's before we even get to the question of why we are giving such a priority to immunity gained through vaccination over immunity gained naturally. That is a significant question given that roughly 60% of our population has likely already been infected and the science is not at all clear that vaccines for such people will afford greater immunity or that it will be safe for such people.

Weak people love to turn to government to control other people as well as themselves.

Guido, in your spare time you should read the Gulag Archipelago and Ordinary Men. They both serve as warnings about how easily people become sheep.
The government has not said that the right to travel "should just go away" as was claimed by Boston. Try again.

Boston Saint 08-31-2021 08:01 AM
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“ Secondly, you completely ignored my very specific question. I can only assume you had no answer. Just as I suspected.”


What do you mean? I just gave you an sample of a right they have taken away. Numerous times you have asked for an example of something, then ignored the example I give. Are you saying there has been no impact on the right of people to attend church? I guess no restaurants were forced to close in your area then. You are lucky because out here they were. That is taking away someone’s right to earn a living.

You just can’t mentally handle being proven wrong. It’s not my fault you can’t handle the truth. I guess haters like you are indeed gonna hate.

AsylumGuido 08-31-2021 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 927167)
“ Secondly, you completely ignored my very specific question. I can only assume you had no answer. Just as I suspected.”


What do you mean? I just gave you an sample of a right they have taken away. Numerous times you have asked for an example of something, then ignored the example I give. Are you saying there has been no impact on the right of people to attend church? I guess no restaurants were forced to close in your area then. You are lucky because out here they were. That is taking away someone’s right to earn a living.

You just can’t mentally handle being proven wrong. It’s not my fault you can’t handle the truth. I guess haters like you are indeed gonna hate.

Lol! You are ridiculous. We can still go to church. We can still go to restaurants. Lol!

Give me a real right that the government is trying to “just make go away”.


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