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SmashMouth 08-23-2021 09:59 AM

Jaguars at Saints Preseason Game Day Thread
 
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The second week of the preseason brings us the first Monday Night Football of the season, and the time-honored tradition of bettors trying to either win back their weekend losses or add to their winnings.

The New Orleans Saints get the first crack at hosting MNF at the newly christened Caesar's Superdome, and the Saints are expected to pick up their first preseason win against the visiting Jacksonville Jaguars.

Jaguars at Saints, 7 p.m. Monday, ESPN
SPREAD: Saints -4

OVER/UNDER: 40

MONEY LINE: Saints -200; Jaguars +175

(Odds via Caesar's)

The trends
The Saints are 0-1 in the preseason and 0-1 against the spread, having lost 17-14 to the Baltimore Ravens as 1-point underdogs last week. That game went under the total of 36.

The Jaguars also lost their first preseason game both straight up and against the spread, falling 23-13 at home against the Cleveland Browns as 4-point underdogs. That game also went narrowly under the total of 37.

Fans can catch the action on the following television stations:

TV: ESPN (WDSU 6 locally)

Announcers: Steve Levy (play-by-play), Brian Griese and Louis Riddick (color analysts) and Lisa Salters (sideline).

LISTEN LIVE
Fans can catch the action on the following radio stations:

Local radio: WWL-870 AM and 105.3 FM

Announcers: Mike Hoss (play-by-play), Deuce McAllister (color analyst), and Steve Geller (sideline)
Spanish language radio: KGLA 830 AM and 105.7 FM

Announcers: Mario Jerez (play-by-play), Juan Carlos Ramos (color analyst) and Victor Quinonez (sideline)
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What to watch
Quarterback competitions for both teams are heating up, and the second-to-last preseason game is often the most competitive and important in these types of decisions.

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For the Saints, Jameis Winston is a slight betting favorite to win the starting job over Taysom Hill. At FoxBet, Winston is a -250 choice to be the starter when the regular season starts Sept. 12 against the Green Bay Packers. Hill is listed at +170 and third-stringer Ian Book is a +6,600 long shot.

DraftKings frames the question slightly differently, but odds are similar: Winston is -185 to start Week 1, and the odds are +140 that anyone else will start at quarterback.




SmashMouth 08-23-2021 10:01 AM

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SmashMouth 08-23-2021 10:02 AM

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First is Jameis, then Taysom. and Ian Book in clean up duty.

Let the game begin!

jeanpierre 08-23-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 926007)
First is Jameis, then Taysom. and Ian Book in clean up duty.

Let the game begin!

Trevor Simian is supposed to get his NFL Audition with the clean-up snaps...


jeanpierre 08-23-2021 10:04 AM

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jeanpierre 08-23-2021 10:06 AM

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jeanpierre 08-23-2021 10:07 AM

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SmashMouth 08-23-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 926009)
Trevor Simian is supposed to get his NFL Audition with the clean-up snaps...

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...95212129280005

Guess he's trying to stash Ian Book from other teams?

K Major 08-23-2021 10:16 AM

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jeanpierre 08-23-2021 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 926019)
Guess he's trying to stash Ian Book from other teams?

One of the things Sean is very good for is keeping his word to his players and believe this is more of him rewarding Trevor for his hard work, learning the system...

Who knows, Siemian may come out and really flash in the second half and then we could get a draft pick out of it...

K Major 08-23-2021 10:29 AM

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I mentioned my "players to watch tonight" in another thread but thought I'd repeat it here on the Game day chat :

QB .. consistency
RB (specifically Jones) If Freeman has another rough day, good night he's gone.
WR - guys not named Callaway. Maybe Kevin White "flashes".
CB - Mr. Mansfield (Adebo), Crawley and the udfa guy
K/Punter - Gillikin can boom em (see Ravens game) but is he consistent.

Zach Baun ... I'd love to see another sound performance tonight.

Does anyone know if Payton Turner or Werner will suit up and play ?

Lord_Saint83 08-23-2021 11:05 AM

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Anyone going to the game tonight? I'am and I would love to meet anyone that’s gonna be there

Boston Saint 08-23-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 926026)
Anyone going to the game tonight? I'am and I would love to meet anyone that’s gonna be there

I wish Lord! Long drive from Massachusetts

Boston Saint 08-23-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 926023)
I mentioned my "players to watch tonight" in another thread but thought I'd repeat it here on the Game day chat

Does anyone know if Payton Turner or Werner will suit up and play ?

Excellent question!

Lord_Saint83 08-23-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 926028)
I wish Lord! Long drive from Massachusetts



Lol, I believe you Bos. Had my fair share of those kinds of drives

AsylumGuido 08-23-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 926026)
Anyone going to the game tonight? I'am and I would love to meet anyone that’s gonna be there

I wish I could. I'd love to use those new tickets we just scored, but it was on too short a notice to get away. We sold one, but still have one on row 1, seat 12, section 229. Excellent seat available on SeatGeek for cheap. We are going to be there on Saturday, however.

jeanpierre 08-23-2021 11:49 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-23-2021 11:52 AM

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Last week we saw Hill play with the 1's (at least the one's that played at all), while Winston had the 2's to work with. They looked comparable. I looking to see what they look like this week with the opposite assignment.

AsylumGuido 08-23-2021 12:13 PM

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Rugby Saint II 08-23-2021 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 926019)
Guess he's trying to stash Ian Book from other teams?

I believe that book will be the third string QB if Hill wins the QB competition. If Winston wins the competition then he jumps into the back up role. Siemien will get his shot tonight to see if he has the necessary intangibles that Payton requires from his signal caller. No matter what, I believe that Book makes the final 53....just in case another team wants him now that he's spent time in the Saints system.

jeanpierre 08-23-2021 12:22 PM

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- Curious to see the DT rotation, not only performance, but snap counts...

- Want to watch the kick coverage to see who really wants to be on the roster...

- Looking to see progress and development not only in Adebo, but Crawley as well...

- What will the new additions' (e.g. Jamerson, Mills, Heath) roles be in the game...

- And like everybody, will be watching the Jameis v Taysom QB Battle...

Boston Saint 08-23-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 926040)
- Curious to see the DT rotation, not only performance, but snap counts...

- Want to watch the kick coverage to see who really wants to be on the roster...

- Looking to see progress and development not only in Adebo, but Crawley as well...

- What will the new additions' (e.g. Jamerson, Mills, Heath) roles be in the game...

- And like everybody, will be watching the Jameis v Taysom QB Battle...

Indeed. I heard Tuttle has struggled.

RailBoss 08-23-2021 12:58 PM

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Nice to see the Game-Day thread start so early.

jeanpierre 08-23-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 926047)
Indeed. I heard Tuttle has struggled.

Supposedly, he's being outplayed...

Rewatched the BAL game and the DTs were being swapped back and forth, DT3 <---> NT, like the coaches were looking for something to stick? testing versatility?

There was a real effort to examine each DT as Onyemata played DE for several snaps at one point...

Boston Saint 08-23-2021 01:08 PM

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Thanks for the insights and updates JP. You are always on top of things.

K Major 08-23-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 926051)
Supposedly, he's being outplayed...

Rewatched the BAL game and the DTs were being swapped back and forth, DT3 <---> NT, like the coaches were looking for something to stick? testing versatility?

There was a real effort to examine each DT as Onyemata played DE for several snaps at one point...

Coaching matters, even at this level. Not sure how much longer we'll have the services of Nielsen on that D Line.

Owners/GM's will call him in 2022 on interviews for defensive coordinator opportunities.

jeanpierre 08-23-2021 01:15 PM

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Rugby Saint II 08-23-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 926056)
Coaching matters, even at this level. Not sure how much longer we'll have the services of Nielsen on that D Line.

Owners/GM's will call him in 2022 on interviews for defensive coordinator opportunities.

That won't get us a draft pick will it? Honestly, I'm surprised that he's still here because he has done wonders with our D-line

Boston Saint 08-23-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 926056)
Coaching matters, even at this level. Not sure how much longer we'll have the services of Nielsen on that D Line.

Owners/GM's will call him in 2022 on interviews for defensive coordinator opportunities.

Likewise we will get calls about our DC. Nielson may just get promoted here.

neugey 08-23-2021 01:41 PM

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Looking forward to the game tonight on TV ... one quarter for each of the 4 QB's?

Rugby Saint II 08-23-2021 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 926061)
Likewise we will get calls about our DC. Nielson may just get promoted here.

I'm fine with that. DA needs everyone to play prefect football for his system to work. Actually, he's only had a couple of good seasons since he's been here. In fact, I would lay the blame squarely on his shoulders for not bringing home another Lombardi trophy.

AsylumGuido 08-23-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 926063)
Looking forward to the game tonight on TV ... one quarter for each of the 4 QB's?

We didn't see Siemian at all last week.

AsylumGuido 08-23-2021 02:10 PM

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Payton's ready to announce the regular season starter because he already knows who it is going to be.


AsylumGuido 08-23-2021 02:15 PM

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SmashMouth 08-23-2021 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 926056)
Coaching matters, even at this level. Not sure how much longer we'll have the services of Nielsen on that D Line.

Owners/GM's will call him in 2022 on interviews for defensive coordinator opportunities.

DL coach and DC are different animals. But you never know. Maybe he thinks he's ready for the jump. Maybe the Saints give him a bump and another title, like assistant DC.

jeanpierre 08-23-2021 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 926068)
DL coach and DC are different animals. But you never know. Maybe he thinks he's ready for the jump. Maybe the Saints give him a bump and another title, like assistant DC.

I'd say the jump to being a HC would be more natural for some DL Position Group Coaches than to a Coordinator job...

SmashMouth 08-23-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 926021)
One of the things Sean is very good for is keeping his word to his players and believe this is more of him rewarding Trevor for his hard work, learning the system...

Who knows, Siemian may come out and really flash in the second half and then we could get a draft pick out of it...

More wishful thinking than likely what'll happen. Plenty of cut 4th stringers on the street very soon. But he could be a phone call away during the season.

K Major 08-23-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 926068)
DL coach and DC are different animals. But you never know. Maybe he thinks he's ready for the jump. Maybe the Saints give him a bump and another title, like assistant DC.

In the right system, I think he'd have a lot of success as DC.

AsylumGuido 08-23-2021 02:26 PM

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Yep. It sounds as though Payton's mind is already made up.


K Major 08-23-2021 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 926067)

Wow, Kwon already set to play tonight ? ... incredible.


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