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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Fun fact: Tampa Bay has won two Super Bowl titles after getting swept by a divisional foe (Saints) during the regular season ... 2002 & 2021. Fair enough... by comparison, the Saints have swept Atlanta ...

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Old 08-25-2021, 12:11 PM   #1
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Fun fact:

Tampa Bay has won two Super Bowl titles after getting swept by a divisional foe (Saints) during the regular season ... 2002 & 2021.
Fair enough... by comparison, the Saints have swept Atlanta and Carolina numerous times. No SBs there! 😜

That is crazy though. Both their SBs they lost to the Saints twice?
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Old 08-25-2021, 02:17 PM   #2
 
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Fun fact:

Tampa Bay has won two Super Bowl titles after getting swept by a divisional foe (Saints) during the regular season ... 2002 & 2021.
Are you saying we should intentionally lose one to them to favor the Gods?
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Old 08-26-2021, 10:44 AM   #3
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Tampa Bay has won two Super Bowl titles after getting swept by a divisional foe (Saints) during the regular season ... 2002 & 2021.
That 2002 team was so frustrating. They sweep the eventual SB champs, including a classic on MNF and sitting at 9-4...then drop 3 straight down the stretch - including to a 1-13 Bengals team - to finish 9-7 and barely miss the playoffs. The Aaron Brooks era was wild.
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Win or lose in the playoffs, it’s still better to sweep a division rival during the season than to be swept... no?
Absolutely. Just saying, several years ago we beat Carolina and Cam Newton twice in the regular season and again in the playoffs. That was pretty sweet.
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Old 08-25-2021, 09:48 AM   #5
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Also since Coach Payton came to New Orleans he has always had Brees behind center.
If Jameis is successful that could answer the long standing question of Sean's dependence on Drew.
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The Saints also swept the Buccaneers in 2013 and 2014
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I have a feeling that without Drew Sean would still have a great winning record. He's an offensive genius. Everyone who watches football knows and understands just how great he is at game planning to get the most out of every player. If he has a vision for you then you're going to be good come game day. If we had a decent defense we would probably have a Lombardi during Payton's tenure
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Old 08-25-2021, 12:03 PM   #8
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I would agree that Sean is one of the more talented Offensive minds in the league today as well as a totally complete Head Coach.
I still think you can give a lot of credit to his success to Drew. Between the two are probably one of the most remarkable Coach/QB duos in NFL history.
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Old 08-25-2021, 04:42 PM   #9
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What I will say is, the lack of deep passing ability held this Offense back. I love what Brees did for this team over the years, but the past 3 years he held us back late in the season.

Not saying any QB on this team is better, because they aren't. However, the threat of the deep pass returning just made Kamara's job slightly easier. They won't be able to stack the box or sit close on swing passes anymore.
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Old 08-26-2021, 11:08 AM   #10
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Honestly, I don’t think Coach Peyton winning with Winston is a difficult thing to pull off. We’re talking about the Heisman Trophy earning, National Championship winning, 1st overall pick in the NFL Draft. He’s one of a short list of people to throw for over 5,000 yards in a season.

19,812 yards passing
121 TD’s
88 INT’s
86.9 QBR

When did all of this become something to dismiss? This guy is RIDICULOUSLY talented and we got a steal in free agency because of character concerns more than anything else if you ask me. Winston was replaced by arguably the GOAT. The question you have to ask yourself is this, when is the last time the New Orleans Saints had a #1 overall pick standing behind the center?

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