Luke Johnson | Saints pick Jameis Winston to succeed Drew Brees as starting quarterback

08-28-2021, 11:15 AM

Has anyone noticed the lack of enthusiastic posts? Rah rah yeah Winston is our guy!? I hope he gets his head on right but I personally still believe that by mid season Taysom is the QB.

Rugby Saint II · 08-28-2021, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Has anyone noticed the lack of enthusiastic posts? Rah rah yeah Winston is our guy!? I hope he gets his head on right but I personally still believe that by mid season Taysom is the QB.

Winston would really have to play poorly to be benched. It's not even close as to who won the QB competition and I don't believe that Payton will let Winston make enough dumb decisions to lose his job to Taysom.

AsylumGuido · 08-28-2021, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Has anyone noticed the lack of enthusiastic posts? Rah rah yeah Winston is our guy!? I hope he gets his head on right but I personally still believe that by mid season Taysom is the QB.

You willing to put money on that? Short of injury to Winston or having our playoff position set in week 18, I see the chances as zero that Hill gets a start this season. I'd love a little extra cash.

And you must have conveniently ignored the positive posts on Winston's being named starter. Personally I expect him to tear it up.

Boston Saint · 08-28-2021, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Has anyone noticed the lack of enthusiastic posts? Rah rah yeah Winston is our guy!? I hope he gets his head on right but I personally still believe that by mid season Taysom is the QB.

Interesting thought. Maybe it is because people are cautiously optimistic/secretly afraid of the future without Brees (post Breesian to quote Guido). I think most people (like myself) here wanted One of the quarterbacks to step forward and clearly shine. Neither one really did. those that thought Winston would clearly be that guy (like myself) have not been vindicated. It was tough to tell with each QB working against two teams of different defensive strengths. It’s gonna be even more strange without the 3rd preseason game.

Opening opponent in Green Bay is obviously a tough one. Let’s hope the fans and the team get it done.

AsylumGuido · 08-28-2021, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Interesting thought. Maybe it is because people are cautiously optimistic/secretly afraid of the future without Brees (post Breesian to quote Guido). I think most people (like myself) here wanted One of the quarterbacks to step forward and clearly shine. Neither one really did. those that thought Winston would clearly be that guy (like myself) have not been vindicated. It was tough to tell with each QB working against two teams of different defensive strengths. It’s gonna be even more strange without the 3rd preseason game.

Opening opponent in Green Bay is obviously a tough one. Let’s hope the fans and the team get it done.

Winston looked great! Both QB's have looked very good. And this with splitting first team reps. Winston will now get all first team reps and I expect him to be one of the better QB's in the league. It's a short list of QB's I'd rather have in the league today than Winston at this point in his career.

20-0 Baby!

saintfan · 08-28-2021, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Winston would really have to play poorly to be benched. It's not even close as to who won the QB competition and I don't believe that Payton will let Winston make enough dumb decisions to lose his job to Taysom.

He'll be starting much sooner than that if Winston's interception rate isn't low. I don't think coach will tolerate 10 picks in 4 games kinda stats. I also think Winston is well aware of this.

The Dude · 08-28-2021, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Interesting thought. Maybe it is because people are cautiously optimistic/secretly afraid of the future without Brees (post Breesian to quote Guido). I think most people (like myself) here wanted One of the quarterbacks to step forward and clearly shine. Neither one really did. those that thought Winston would clearly be that guy (like myself) have not been vindicated. It was tough to tell with each QB working against two teams of different defensive strengths. It’s gonna be even more strange without the 3rd preseason game.

Opening opponent in Green Bay is obviously a tough one. Let’s hope the fans and the team get it done.

Don’t quote Guido. The last thing we need is a bunch of Guidoisms flying around the board.

The Dude · 08-28-2021, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Interesting thought. Maybe it is because people are cautiously optimistic/secretly afraid of the future without Brees (post Breesian to quote Guido). I think most people (like myself) here wanted One of the quarterbacks to step forward and clearly shine. Neither one really did. those that thought Winston would clearly be that guy (like myself) have not been vindicated. It was tough to tell with each QB working against two teams of different defensive strengths. It’s gonna be even more strange without the 3rd preseason game.

Opening opponent in Green Bay is obviously a tough one. Let’s hope the fans and the team get it done.

Personally I find the fact Winston wasn’t the clear leader from the first day of camp a little frightening.
He’s head and shoulders above Taysom but if you believe the reports coming out of camp he was pretty hot and cold, like he’s always been. I hope he can find consistency but those TDS he made against Jacksonville were pretty typical of him but usually they’re followed up with a couple interceptions a few series later.

AsylumGuido · 08-28-2021, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Personally I find the fact Winston wasn’t the clear leader from the first day of camp a little frightening.
He’s head and shoulders above Taysom but if you believe the reports coming out of camp he was pretty hot and cold, like he’s always been. I hope he can find consistency but those TDS he made against Jacksonville were pretty typical of him but usually they’re followed up with a couple interceptions a few series later.

Most every QB across the league was hot and cold during early training camp. It's pretty much par for the course. And don't forget, Winston is in a completely different sort of offense and he also has a completely different frame of mind. I do not expect turnovers to be an issue at all.

As for being a clear leader, that depends upon point of view. I feel Payton knew exactly who was the clear leader even though Hill was given every possible chance. Besides, Hill is quite capable of starting in the NFL. They both looked good overall. I don't see him being anywhere near as effective as Winston, however.

AsylumGuido · 08-28-2021, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Don’t quote Guido. The last thing we need is a bunch of Guidoisms flying around the board.

That's exactly what we need.

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08-28-2021, 11:45 AM	#12
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Luke Johnson \| Saints pick Jameis Winston to succeed Drew Brees as starting quarterback Originally Posted by Thirty3 Has anyone noticed the lack of enthusiastic posts? Rah rah yeah Winston is our guy!? I hope he gets his head on right but I personally still believe that by mid season Taysom is the QB. You willing to put money on that? Short of injury to Winston or having our playoff position set in week 18, I see the chances as zero that Hill gets a start this season. I'd love a little extra cash. And you must have conveniently ignored the positive posts on Winston's being named starter. Personally I expect him to tear it up. pumpkindriver likes this.

08-28-2021, 12:59 PM	#14
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: Luke Johnson \| Saints pick Jameis Winston to succeed Drew Brees as starting quarterback Originally Posted by Thirty3 Has anyone noticed the lack of enthusiastic posts? Rah rah yeah Winston is our guy!? I hope he gets his head on right but I personally still believe that by mid season Taysom is the QB. Interesting thought. Maybe it is because people are cautiously optimistic/secretly afraid of the future without Brees (post Breesian to quote Guido). I think most people (like myself) here wanted One of the quarterbacks to step forward and clearly shine. Neither one really did. those that thought Winston would clearly be that guy (like myself) have not been vindicated. It was tough to tell with each QB working against two teams of different defensive strengths. It’s gonna be even more strange without the 3rd preseason game. Opening opponent in Green Bay is obviously a tough one. Let’s hope the fans and the team get it done. Thirty3 likes this.
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08-28-2021, 01:05 PM	#15
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Luke Johnson \| Saints pick Jameis Winston to succeed Drew Brees as starting quarterback Originally Posted by Boston Saint Interesting thought. Maybe it is because people are cautiously optimistic/secretly afraid of the future without Brees (post Breesian to quote Guido). I think most people (like myself) here wanted One of the quarterbacks to step forward and clearly shine. Neither one really did. those that thought Winston would clearly be that guy (like myself) have not been vindicated. It was tough to tell with each QB working against two teams of different defensive strengths. It’s gonna be even more strange without the 3rd preseason game. Opening opponent in Green Bay is obviously a tough one. Let’s hope the fans and the team get it done. Winston looked great! Both QB's have looked very good. And this with splitting first team reps. Winston will now get all first team reps and I expect him to be one of the better QB's in the league. It's a short list of QB's I'd rather have in the league today than Winston at this point in his career. 20-0 Baby! pumpkindriver likes this.

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08-28-2021, 01:30 PM	#16
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Luke Johnson \| Saints pick Jameis Winston to succeed Drew Brees as starting quarterback Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Winston would really have to play poorly to be benched. It's not even close as to who won the QB competition and I don't believe that Payton will let Winston make enough dumb decisions to lose his job to Taysom. He'll be starting much sooner than that if Winston's interception rate isn't low. I don't think coach will tolerate 10 picks in 4 games kinda stats. I also think Winston is well aware of this. jeanpierre, Thirty3 and SaintGnome like this.

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08-28-2021, 01:58 PM	#18
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Luke Johnson \| Saints pick Jameis Winston to succeed Drew Brees as starting quarterback Originally Posted by Boston Saint Interesting thought. Maybe it is because people are cautiously optimistic/secretly afraid of the future without Brees (post Breesian to quote Guido). I think most people (like myself) here wanted One of the quarterbacks to step forward and clearly shine. Neither one really did. those that thought Winston would clearly be that guy (like myself) have not been vindicated. It was tough to tell with each QB working against two teams of different defensive strengths. It’s gonna be even more strange without the 3rd preseason game. Opening opponent in Green Bay is obviously a tough one. Let’s hope the fans and the team get it done. Personally I find the fact Winston wasn’t the clear leader from the first day of camp a little frightening. He’s head and shoulders above Taysom but if you believe the reports coming out of camp he was pretty hot and cold, like he’s always been. I hope he can find consistency but those TDS he made against Jacksonville were pretty typical of him but usually they’re followed up with a couple interceptions a few series later. jnormand and Boston Saint like this.
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08-28-2021, 02:14 PM	#19
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Luke Johnson \| Saints pick Jameis Winston to succeed Drew Brees as starting quarterback Originally Posted by The Dude Personally I find the fact Winston wasn’t the clear leader from the first day of camp a little frightening. He’s head and shoulders above Taysom but if you believe the reports coming out of camp he was pretty hot and cold, like he’s always been. I hope he can find consistency but those TDS he made against Jacksonville were pretty typical of him but usually they’re followed up with a couple interceptions a few series later. Most every QB across the league was hot and cold during early training camp. It's pretty much par for the course. And don't forget, Winston is in a completely different sort of offense and he also has a completely different frame of mind. I do not expect turnovers to be an issue at all. As for being a clear leader, that depends upon point of view. I feel Payton knew exactly who was the clear leader even though Hill was given every possible chance. Besides, Hill is quite capable of starting in the NFL. They both looked good overall. I don't see him being anywhere near as effective as Winston, however.
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08-28-2021, 02:15 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Luke Johnson \| Saints pick Jameis Winston to succeed Drew Brees as starting quarterback Originally Posted by The Dude Don’t quote Guido. The last thing we need is a bunch of Guidoisms flying around the board. That's exactly what we need.