Luke Johnson | Saints pick Jameis Winston to succeed Drew Brees as starting quarterback
 

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I was surprised it took this long

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I suspect Payton knew exactly who the starter was going to be weeks ago, but letting the "competition" play out was for the sake of the team chemistry. The team was seeing what Payton already knew. At the very beginning of training camp coach Charlie Weis stated this on NFL Radio. I think he nailed it.

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Brees told Winston “This is your team” at the end of the Buccaneers playoff loss. This was always the plan. There never was a real competition.

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It's not like His didn't get his money or something. We'll see how this plays out. Will he stay in NOLA after this year. Will the Saints resign him? Or will he opt to move on for a chance elsewhere? Will the Saints trade him at some point?

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If you consider Sean’s offense then this is a foregone conclusion for you. Even if Taysom had edged Winston out, which he didn’t, our offense is exponentially more dynamic with Winston under center and Taysom on the field as well, than it is with just Taysom under center. All day, every day.

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Hoping Taysom will return to his cameo role, because I have a feeling we will need the occasional QB power run and specialty plays to thwart the defense on some 3rd/4th down or goal-to-go situations, this year more than ever.

Book is the logical choice for the backup QB spot, between Book and Siemian, Siemian is the only one we can risk clearing waivers and making the practice squad (assuming he is still practice squad eligible). But we will see what this last preseason game brings.

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I'd rather have both players at the same time rather than just one.

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Has anyone noticed the lack of enthusiastic posts? Rah rah yeah Winston is our guy!? I hope he gets his head on right but I personally still believe that by mid season Taysom is the QB.

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Winston would really have to play poorly to be benched. It's not even close as to who won the QB competition and I don't believe that Payton will let Winston make enough dumb decisions to lose his job to Taysom.

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You willing to put money on that? Short of injury to Winston or having our playoff position set in week 18, I see the chances as zero that Hill gets a start this season. I'd love a little extra cash.

:D

And you must have conveniently ignored the positive posts on Winston's being named starter. Personally I expect him to tear it up.

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Interesting thought. Maybe it is because people are cautiously optimistic/secretly afraid of the future without Brees (post Breesian to quote Guido). I think most people (like myself) here wanted One of the quarterbacks to step forward and clearly shine. Neither one really did. those that thought Winston would clearly be that guy (like myself) have not been vindicated. It was tough to tell with each QB working against two teams of different defensive strengths. It’s gonna be even more strange without the 3rd preseason game.

Opening opponent in Green Bay is obviously a tough one. Let’s hope the fans and the team get it done.

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Winston looked great! Both QB's have looked very good. And this with splitting first team reps. Winston will now get all first team reps and I expect him to be one of the better QB's in the league. It's a short list of QB's I'd rather have in the league today than Winston at this point in his career.

20-0 Baby!

:bng:

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He'll be starting much sooner than that if Winston's interception rate isn't low. I don't think coach will tolerate 10 picks in 4 games kinda stats. I also think Winston is well aware of this.

:popcorn:

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Don’t quote Guido. The last thing we need is a bunch of Guidoisms flying around the board.

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Personally I find the fact Winston wasn’t the clear leader from the first day of camp a little frightening.
He’s head and shoulders above Taysom but if you believe the reports coming out of camp he was pretty hot and cold, like he’s always been. I hope he can find consistency but those TDS he made against Jacksonville were pretty typical of him but usually they’re followed up with a couple interceptions a few series later.

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Most every QB across the league was hot and cold during early training camp. It's pretty much par for the course. And don't forget, Winston is in a completely different sort of offense and he also has a completely different frame of mind. I do not expect turnovers to be an issue at all.

As for being a clear leader, that depends upon point of view. I feel Payton knew exactly who was the clear leader even though Hill was given every possible chance. Besides, Hill is quite capable of starting in the NFL. They both looked good overall. I don't see him being anywhere near as effective as Winston, however.

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That's exactly what we need. ;)

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There was never a moment during this off-season or preseason where I wondered if Hill might win the job. It was clear to me as soon as we resigned Winston that this was his job. Besides him being the FAR superior QB, Brees told him it was his time, and the leaders of this team all seemed to allude to wanting Winston to be the starter. The “battle” was a waste of time. People on this forum aren’t enthusiastic about Winston because they don’t like him as a person. Some people reference 2019, but the likelihood of him ever throwing that many interceptions again isn’t very high at all. I’m more excited about this season than any of the ones we’ve had in a long time. We can finally be explosive again.

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Right there with you, Rez! Shock and Awe, baby! As huge a fan as I am of Drew Brees his abilities over the past few years severely limited this offense. That's hard for me to admit, but we all know it is true. Winston, by far, is the better option of the two to make our offense feared again. Couple that with an offense that is easily among the best in the league and this will truly be an exciting future.

20-0 Baby!

:bng:

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Michael Thomas throwing his support behind Jameis.

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Lol.....

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Jameis has a few controversies in his earlier days and a lot remember this game. But if the Coach can get over it so can we... I'm guessing.
Divisional rivalries always bring out the best and worst.
Click on Youtube..

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Don’t gamble. Positive posts NOT exited posts.

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I agree which is why I think he’ll lose the job

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lol. I usually like his insights and especially his positivity.

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Why do you think he will suddenly begin to play poorly? Because of the offensive schemes in Tampa he did have a year with quite a few interceptions (his only year with Bruce "No risk it, no biscuit" Arians as head coach), but he has never played what one would call poorly. He had 121 TD's and almost 20,000 yards passing in his five years. Those are extremely good numbers on a poor team.

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I'm not sure that it was exactly a waste of time. Because of his talent, Winston had been handed all of his previous QB positions in the past, with frankly uneven results. In this instance, he really had to demonstrate that he was worthy of the selection. In addition, by giving Taysom a true opportunity with demonstrated results to show that the position didn't belong to him. I think this is important for every stakeholder, especially Taysom-stans.

While a few will still bark that Taysom should be under center, the evidence is pretty clear. That gives Jameis the authority to lead the Saints in 2021, and hopefully into the next era of Saints football with confidence.

SFIAH

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Suddenly? I think it for many reasons like staring down about every receiver against Jville. Won’t work against good defense. The guy can pass but it takes more than that to play QB. Hoping Our coaches have helped him bu I want to see it. Wishing him well- just don’t expect it.

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Very valid points!

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I heard somewhere the other day that Winston lead all QBs in pre-season QBR. Not sure if it’s true or not, but take that for what you will.

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I had not thought of that angle. I was impressed that he humbled himself and came here (or anywhere else), carried the clipboard, showed up, prepared, performed when asked, commanded the huddle, paid his dues, and whatever else. All that. And more from all accounts. But I had not considered how he was almost surely challenged with and motivated by the idea that this time he was going to have to pay the monthly note if he wanted the car. Can't blame him. He really is gifted enough to have never had to face that.

There are plenty of reasons to get behind Winston and pull hard for him. Sure sounds like his teammates are on board. Taysom will get another shot, probably somewhere else, and I'll pull for that guy too. I do believe this team will not regret letting Winston play. I am officially excited to watch him go out and prove a few things.

:bng: