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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Boston Saint Mccaffrey is one of the best backs in the league. They have great talent at WR. Unlike the packers, their team worked together in the preseason practices and games. Saints are effectively in the middle ...

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Old 09-15-2021, 04:12 PM   #1
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Mccaffrey is one of the best backs in the league. They have great talent at WR. Unlike the packers, their team worked together in the preseason practices and games. Saints are effectively in the middle of a three game road trip and still dealing with the hurricane. This is a game against an “inferior” team sandwiched between the Pats and Packers. Many reasons to worry about this game.
McCaffrey also only has a career high of 64 yards rushing versus the Saints (according to a Carolina fan). They have a QB that has only seven more career TD's than interceptions. In fact, last year Darnold had two more picks than TD's. The Panthers' offensive line is a huge question mark.
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Old 09-15-2021, 04:22 PM   #2
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McCaffrey also only has a career high of 64 yards rushing versus the Saints (according to a Carolina fan). They have a QB that has only seven more career TD's than interceptions. In fact, last year Darnold had two more picks than TD's. The Panthers' offensive line is a huge question mark.
I hope all that adds up to a win. Take them lightly all you want to.
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Old 09-15-2021, 04:51 PM   #3
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I hope all that adds up to a win. Take them lightly all you want to.
How I, or you, take them doesn't matter one iota. We are simply fans. Do you doubt Payton will have the team prepared?
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Old 09-15-2021, 05:31 PM   #4
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It without a doubt matters. Among my poker group it’s much more agreeable for all to be accurate about game predictions and avoid overselling your team. Don’t gotta swallow crow you don’t deserve.

And without a doubt some players pay attention to what fans and media say. Teams get overconfident all the time.
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It without a doubt matters. Among my poker group it’s much more agreeable for all to be accurate about game predictions and avoid overselling your team. Don’t gotta swallow crow you don’t deserve.

And without a doubt some players pay attention to what fans and media say. Teams get overconfident all the time.
If you watch more than just the Saints when watching NFL football, the Saints are simply one of the most mercurial of teams...

Statistically, the Saints are one of the best teams against the spread as an underdog, not many in our league, but we're also one of the worst big favorites...

That is to say, we've a bad franchise history of playing down to the talent like Jabronies...

Don't want to be a jabronie, don't play down to the talent; steady consistent play, put it away by playing four quarters of solid, winning football...

Anything else, we give back our home-field advantage...

And don't tempt the football gods like the cheese heads did on Sunday or it's humble pie...
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I hope all that adds up to a win. Take them lightly all you want to.
One of the prized luxuries of being a fan is that we can take opponents anyway we like and it doesn't effect the game one bit.
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One of the prized luxuries of being a fan is that we can take opponents anyway we like and it doesn't effect the game one bit.
I respectfully disagree. These are human beings. In this day of social media it’s easy for players to get caught up in their own press...positive or negative. The NY Mets recently had to deal with a star player negatively reacting to home fans booing him. CGM doesn’t have a twitter account so he can ignore it. I don’t believe players (even coaches) exist in a bubble that separates them from dealing with outside forces. I believe the undefeated Pats team got caught up in their own pub before the SB before the Giants and I believe Indy did too when Namath beat them in the SB. If fan input was not part of the game then the games would not be played in front of thousands of screaming fans. Just my opinion.
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That makes sense.
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I respectfully disagree. These are human beings. In this day of social media it’s easy for players to get caught up in their own press...positive or negative. The NY Mets recently had to deal with a star player negatively reacting to home fans booing him. CGM doesn’t have a twitter account so he can ignore it. I don’t believe players (even coaches) exist in a bubble that separates them from dealing with outside forces. I believe the undefeated Pats team got caught up in their own pub before the SB before the Giants and I believe Indy did too when Namath beat them in the SB. If fan input was not part of the game then the games would not be played in front of thousands of screaming fans. Just my opinion.
With all due respect, you aren't disagreeing with me. You have gone off on a tangent that has very little if anything to do with my comment.

In regards to my comment: Whether I pine away in fear of playing the Carolina Panthers or don't give them a second thought has zero effect on the outcome of the game. As universally famous and revered as Guido is, I seriously doubt how he feels about the Panthers is going to effect the scoreboard this weekend. Much like the delusions of grandeur by both Panther and Falcons fans over recent years has not helped them put a Ws in the win column against the Saints. Saints are 6-1 in the last 7 meetings with the Falcons, and 6-1 in the last 7 meetings with the Panthers. Also, TheDude's feelings alone would have caused both teams to sweep us... and we would have many 0-16 seasons.

On your reply: As fans we certainly would love to feel like we impact the game with our insightful ramblings wouldn't we? With a combined 18 years of baseball and football I can tell you the morning following a game I grabbed the paper on my way to school or Saturday morning film review to see what was was written but after the paper was discarded there wasn't a second thought about what I read, focus immediately changed to the upcoming game preparation. Other than knowing my parents were in the stands I couldn't tell you anything else about the fans in the stands or what they were saying, my focus was on the game and actually drowning all that crap out.

Games are played in front of fans for two reasons; ticket revenue, and because crowd noise helps the home team but there isn't a single word in that noise that is distinguishable much like the fake crowd noise used during 2020. If fans in the stadium screaming could change the outcome of a game the Browns would sell tickets for $2 and go 16-0. If crowd noise could change the out come of a game the Saints would not have had a better road record than home record in 2019...

Going all the way back to Namath to cite a handful of examples does not a rule or trend make, those are anomaly's. One person on the Met's 40 man roster is not a trend or rule, its an anomaly.

Our biggest direct impact on professional sports is on revenue, the game is changed to drive revenue. No one gave two sh1ts about the fans opinions or thoughts but the fans during bountygate.

Your beliefs are yours and I am in no way trying to change them, I am just clarifying on my original comment. Please continue to change the outcome of games we need more Ws this year.
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