Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

We'll have to take care of CMC. Who's better, GB or the Panties?

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Offensively, Packers. Darnold or Rodgers? Defensively, Panthers. Overall, Green Bay, and I would say easily.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

From the film it looks like the Panthers have improved. But then again so have we.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

You do realize they were playing the Jets, right? ;) And only managed 19 points.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Here's hoping for similar performances this week.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Visited a Carolina Panthers message board earlier ...

A somewhat delusional fan base that rarely talk X's and O's. All I read were personal attacks against Sean Payton & the fan base. About as much class as Atlanta.

It's a divisional rival (anything can happen) but I hope we put up 40.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Honestly they have less class than Atlanta. Which board did you visit? I've been talking with a few over at carolinahuddle.com. Been a member there since 2010.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

That would be the one.

Yes, saw your comments on their site.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Yeah, their idea of analysis is we should lose because of Katrina and bounties. There are only a few that can honestly look at a rivals roster.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

I'm not sure what to think of the Panthers game yet. Didn't watch much of them last year. It depends on how well their OL and DL are playing.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Mccaffrey is one of the best backs in the league. They have great talent at WR. Unlike the packers, their team worked together in the preseason practices and games. Saints are effectively in the middle of a three game road trip and still dealing with the hurricane. This is a game against an “inferior” team sandwiched between the Pats and Packers. Many reasons to worry about this game.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

McCaffrey also only has a career high of 64 yards rushing versus the Saints (according to a Carolina fan). They have a QB that has only seven more career TD's than interceptions. In fact, last year Darnold had two more picks than TD's. The Panthers' offensive line is a huge question mark.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

I hope all that adds up to a win. Take them lightly all you want to.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Every panties fan on YT and other places thinking just cause they beat the jets, they are gonna beat us. I told a guy yea y’all sacked Wilson six times but the jets have one of the worst line in the league and we are one of the best. Amongst other things. Not saying we'll curb stomp them but we’ll beat them. I’m not sold on Darnold one bit.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

This week’s spread has Saints a 3.5 favorite. I’ll say I had more faith in the Saints covering last week’s spread than I do them covering this week’s. I could be completely wrong, just my opinion.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

How I, or you, take them doesn't matter one iota. We are simply fans. Do you doubt Payton will have the team prepared?

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Darnold was so bad the Jets didn't want him. Think about that. LOL!

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Those that seem to know what they are talking about on the Panthers' forum are extremely concerned about their offensive line. I can easily see five sacks and a couple of forced picks.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

It without a doubt matters. Among my poker group it’s much more agreeable for all to be accurate about game predictions and avoid overselling your team. Don’t gotta swallow crow you don’t deserve.

And without a doubt some players pay attention to what fans and media say. Teams get overconfident all the time.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

So you expect Darnold to be the next Brees?

Okay.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Seems like they let go of a couple LBs over the years that ended up being pretty good too. What were their names again 🤔

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Looks like it’s still the C-Mac show. One dimensional. They got better with Darnold but their offensive line has had problems in the past when it comes to pass protection. He was hit like 9 times last week.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Rhule is light years beyond Gase as a coach. That's not saying that Rhule is a surefire genius, it is just that Gase was that bad. If Darnold is to become a solid QB there's a better chance of it now.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

One of the prized luxuries of being a fan is that we can take opponents anyway we like and it doesn't effect the game one bit. :bng:

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

I respectfully disagree. These are human beings. In this day of social media it’s easy for players to get caught up in their own press...positive or negative. The NY Mets recently had to deal with a star player negatively reacting to home fans booing him. CGM doesn’t have a twitter account so he can ignore it. I don’t believe players (even coaches) exist in a bubble that separates them from dealing with outside forces. I believe the undefeated Pats team got caught up in their own pub before the SB before the Giants and I believe Indy did too when Namath beat them in the SB. If fan input was not part of the game then the games would not be played in front of thousands of screaming fans. Just my opinion.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

That makes sense.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Tony said it best.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

If I remember right, he used to play the game, right?

What fans feel or think has zero effect on what players, coaches and teams as a whole feel or think. Zero. Nothing. Zilch.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

With all due respect, you aren't disagreeing with me. You have gone off on a tangent that has very little if anything to do with my comment.

In regards to my comment: Whether I pine away in fear of playing the Carolina Panthers or don't give them a second thought has zero effect on the outcome of the game. As universally famous and revered as Guido is, I seriously doubt how he feels about the Panthers is going to effect the scoreboard this weekend. Much like the delusions of grandeur by both Panther and Falcons fans over recent years has not helped them put a Ws in the win column against the Saints. Saints are 6-1 in the last 7 meetings with the Falcons, and 6-1 in the last 7 meetings with the Panthers. Also, TheDude's feelings alone would have caused both teams to sweep us... and we would have many 0-16 seasons.

On your reply: As fans we certainly would love to feel like we impact the game with our insightful ramblings wouldn't we? With a combined 18 years of baseball and football I can tell you the morning following a game I grabbed the paper on my way to school or Saturday morning film review to see what was was written but after the paper was discarded there wasn't a second thought about what I read, focus immediately changed to the upcoming game preparation. Other than knowing my parents were in the stands I couldn't tell you anything else about the fans in the stands or what they were saying, my focus was on the game and actually drowning all that crap out.

Games are played in front of fans for two reasons; ticket revenue, and because crowd noise helps the home team but there isn't a single word in that noise that is distinguishable much like the fake crowd noise used during 2020. If fans in the stadium screaming could change the outcome of a game the Browns would sell tickets for $2 and go 16-0. If crowd noise could change the out come of a game the Saints would not have had a better road record than home record in 2019...

Going all the way back to Namath to cite a handful of examples does not a rule or trend make, those are anomaly's. One person on the Met's 40 man roster is not a trend or rule, its an anomaly.

Our biggest direct impact on professional sports is on revenue, the game is changed to drive revenue. No one gave two sh1ts about the fans opinions or thoughts but the fans during bountygate. :bng:

Your beliefs are yours and I am in no way trying to change them, I am just clarifying on my original comment. Please continue to change the outcome of games we need more Ws this year.:bng:

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

True enough. But Yesterday I heard a clip of a player being interviewed and at the end Payton could be heard yelling in the background about not eating cheese. If it’s something Payton is telling players I don’t feel it’s out of place mentioning on a Saints forum. You are absolutely correct none of us here are out there playing (unless rez is Demario Davis incognito 😁), but If a player comes down to earth a little more because we as fans don’t get too full of ourselves and show opponents a little respect then so much the better IMO. I know if my son or daughter was playing against another school that’s what I would tell them.

Re: Saints @ Panthers Pregame Discussion
 

Coaches coach, players play and fans watch. Weather cheering or *****ing fans only impact is on their personal state of mind.