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NonieT 10-01-2021 01:31 PM
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I've been clear that I'm hopeful that Winston turns out to be a great QB and will give him the benefit of the doubt until I'm either proven right or wrong. He just doesn't seem to be a bright guy. But for what it's worth, apparently Marino wasn't very bright also.
He didn't have to think in Tampa he was just told to sling it. That doesn't take much thought.

AsylumGuido 10-01-2021 01:41 PM
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He didn't have to think in Tampa he was just told to sling it. That doesn't take much thought.
That's Bruce Arians for you. Brady came in and basically told Arians not to get in his way and took over.

NonieT 10-01-2021 02:10 PM
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That's Bruce Arians for you. Brady came in and basically told Arians not to get in his way and took over.
And that is probably the only reason Arians still has a job and a SB title.

jnormand 10-01-2021 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 929979)
I've been clear that I'm hopeful that Winston turns out to be a great QB and will give him the benefit of the doubt until I'm either proven right or wrong. He just doesn't seem to be a bright guy. But for what it's worth, apparently Marino wasn't very bright also.
Winston is not a "cerebral QB." He's got skill. And he's athletic. I don't want to call him dumb. He's just not the QB that is gonna make the reads like Brees. He probably relies more on instinct. He's obviously not as serious. Brees was all business. Like a coach on the field.

hitta 10-02-2021 01:29 AM
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Winston is not a "cerebral QB." He's got skill. And he's athletic. I don't want to call him dumb. He's just not the QB that is gonna make the reads like Brees. He probably relies more on instinct. He's obviously not as serious. Brees was all business. Like a coach on the field.
This is exactly why we would be better off with Taysom. I don't think Jameis is bad or anything, I just think he has a very high ceiling. He has a quick mind, he runs well, and throws bullets. I don't think he does a bad job at choosing the right receivers, but he does throw the ball too damn hard. I think this is correctable with in game reps. I just think Winston is missing something that is required to be at the top of the NFL hierarchy.

dizzle88 10-02-2021 05:52 AM
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We certainly were spoilt with Brees. He was able to diagnose pre-snap and if coverage changed, he'd go through 4 reads in about 2 seconds. That's a special ability.

I don't think Taysom or Jameis read the game well enough to be a long term starter. If Kamara and the run game get shut down, neither Taysom or Jameis are going to win the game I don't think.

I think we need to draft a QB after this season.

neugey 10-02-2021 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 930001)
Winston is not a "cerebral QB." He's got skill. And he's athletic. I don't want to call him dumb. He's just not the QB that is gonna make the reads like Brees. He probably relies more on instinct. He's obviously not as serious. Brees was all business. Like a coach on the field.

To be fair, having a cerebral QB who takes on such a heavy role of leadership is a rare thing. A Brees or Peyton Manning or Brady or Elway just doesn't come along all too often. There are guys like Aikman or Favre that are in the Hall of Fame and great in their own way yet are not this type of QB. Need to evaluate Winston for who he is.

SmashMouth 10-02-2021 08:22 AM
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We certainly were spoilt with Brees. He was able to diagnose pre-snap and if coverage changed, he'd go through 4 reads in about 2 seconds. That's a special ability.

I don't think Taysom or Jameis read the game well enough to be a long term starter. If Kamara and the run game get shut down, neither Taysom or Jameis are going to win the game I don't think.

I think we need to draft a QB after this season.
Shall we trade for BDJ Joe Burreaux? :bng:

Rugby Saint II 10-02-2021 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 930003)
We certainly were spoilt with Brees. He was able to diagnose pre-snap and if coverage changed, he'd go through 4 reads in about 2 seconds. That's a special ability.

I don't think Taysom or Jameis read the game well enough to be a long term starter. If Kamara and the run game get shut down, neither Taysom or Jameis are going to win the game I don't think.

I think we need to draft a QB after this season.


We already did. His name is Ian Book! :broccoli:

RailBoss 10-02-2021 09:11 PM
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We're 2-1 with a bunch of key players out.
Let's take care of the G-Men tomorrow and sink RiverBoat Ron next week and if all goes well we should be 4-1.
Jameis will be alright after all there is no one who can fill Drew's shoes.


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