Saints vs Washington pre-game thread

Thirty3 · 10-08-2021, 10:06 AM

Will Winston yo-yo or is this his last game starting? I for one am tired of the roller coaster.

K Major · 10-08-2021, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Will Winston yo-yo or is this his last game starting? I for one am tired of the roller coaster.

Last game starting

Winston was 17/22 (73% comp) 226 yards / 1 TD & 0 ints vs the Giants ... probably his best game as a Saint thus far + he's starting to gel with Harris/MC & Stills.

Is he costing us games? Why on earth would CSP bench him? You want Taysom in FT as QB? Ian Book perhaps?

C'mon man.

AsylumGuido · 10-08-2021, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Last game starting

Winston was 17/22 (73% comp) 226 yards / 1 TD & 0 ints vs the Giants ... probably his best game as a Saint thus far + he's starting to gel with Harris/MC & Stills.

Is he costing us games? Why on earth would CSP bench him? You want Taysom in FT as QB? Ian Book perhaps?

C'mon man.

Thirty3 has been dogging Winston all along and has stated that Winston will get benched for Hill. The truth doesn't matter.

Thirty3 · 10-08-2021, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Thirty3 has been dogging Winston all along and has stated that Winston will get benched for Hill. The truth doesn't matter.

Truth? What truth. That he had one game as good as Hills four games? The truth is he sucked for the first 1 and 3/4 quarters which allowed NYG to hang around and gain confidence. I haven’t dogged him badly. Just pointed out obvious flaws and why he is not the best QB on the roster. WHAT IS THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS POSITION LEAGUE STANDING AGAIN???

AsylumGuido · 10-08-2021, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Truth? What truth. That he had one game as good as Hills four games? The truth is he sucked for the first 1 and 3/4 quarters which allowed NYG to hang around and gain confidence. I haven’t dogged him badly. Just pointed out obvious flaws and why he is not the best QB on the roster. WHAT IS THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS POSITION LEAGUE STANDING AGAIN???

Winston is the 4th rated QB in the NFL through four games. You are blind, my friend. Blinded by what I am not sure. And if you honesty believe Hill is a better QB you know very little about the game.

Just face the truth that you have a personal hatred for the man. What that hatred is based upon is your issue. But it is unfounded.

Thirty3 · 10-08-2021, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Winston is the 4th rated QB in the NFL through four games. You are blind, my friend. Blinded by what I am not sure. And if you honesty believe Hill is a better QB you know very little about the game.

Just face the truth that you have a personal hatred for the man. What that hatred is based upon is your issue. But it is unfounded.

When a debate is being lost out come the personal attacks. HATE? You don’t know me. Winston sucked in Tampa as a Player and he sucks - so far- in New Orleans. I haven’t one time attacked him personally. I’ve only pointed out his shortcomings in regards to football necessary skills.

AsylumGuido · 10-08-2021, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

When a debate is being lost out come the personal attacks. HATE? You don’t know me. Winston sucked in Tampa as a Player and he sucks - so far- in New Orleans. I haven’t one time attacked him personally. I’ve only pointed out his shortcomings in regards to football necessary skills.

How did he suck in Tampa? He was stuck in offenses that demanded taking chances. He led the NFL in total passing in 2019. That doesn't suck. He was second in TD's. That doesn't suck. He has passed for more yardage and TD's than 99% of QB's that have ever played in the NFL in his first five years. That doesn't suck.

Accurately define those shortcomings you claim. I emphasize "accurately".

Lord_Saint83 · 10-08-2021, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Last game starting

Winston was 17/22 (73% comp) 226 yards / 1 TD & 0 ints vs the Giants ... probably his best game as a Saint thus far + he's starting to gel with Harris/MC & Stills.

Is he costing us games? Why on earth would CSP bench him? You want Taysom in FT as QB? Ian Book perhaps?

C'mon man.

K, it don’t matter if he post a perfect qb rating the rest of this year. Some on here just don’t want him as qb for whatever reason but it’s ridiculous. If he was throwing ints left and right fine, but he’s not. But he’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I’ll say this again, if Hill was that damn good as some claim. He would of been starting qb, plain and simple

RailBoss · 10-08-2021, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

K, it don’t matter if he post a perfect qb rating the rest of this year. Some on here just don’t want him as qb for whatever reason but it’s ridiculous. If he was throwing ints left and right fine but he’s not. But he’s damned if you damned you don’t. I’ll say this again, if Hill was that damn good as some claim. He would of been starting qb, plain and simple

As they say everyone has their opinion and Lord knows you aren't changing it.
The Giants game was on the Coach's especially on DA. That Kid Jones passed for 402 yards and 2 TD's,
another breakout game for an underachieving QB.
Not sure how to blame that on Jameis, I didn't recall see him playing in the defensive backfield.

K Major · 10-08-2021, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

That Kid Jones passed for 402 yards and 2 TD's,
another breakout game for an underachieving QB.

At times Danny Dimes had as much as 5.5 seconds to go through his progressions. Corners can only cover for so long.

Heinieke (sp) can scramble & is pretty accurate when he has time. Terry McLaurin (WR) is a solid target too. Keep your head on a swivel with Chase Young coming off the edge. CSP is career 3-4 vs Washington winning the last two games.

I'm hopeful our pass rush performs better on Sunday.

10-08-2021, 10:06 AM	#1
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10-08-2021, 10:31 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints vs Washington pre-game thread Originally Posted by Thirty3 Will Winston yo-yo or is this his last game starting? I for one am tired of the roller coaster. Last game starting Winston was 17/22 (73% comp) 226 yards / 1 TD & 0 ints vs the Giants ... probably his best game as a Saint thus far + he's starting to gel with Harris/MC & Stills. Is he costing us games? Why on earth would CSP bench him? You want Taysom in FT as QB? Ian Book perhaps? C'mon man. iceshack149, RailBoss, WW_Who_Dat and 3 others like this.

10-08-2021, 10:34 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints vs Washington pre-game thread Originally Posted by K Major Last game starting Winston was 17/22 (73% comp) 226 yards / 1 TD & 0 ints vs the Giants ... probably his best game as a Saint thus far + he's starting to gel with Harris/MC & Stills. Is he costing us games? Why on earth would CSP bench him? You want Taysom in FT as QB? Ian Book perhaps? C'mon man. Thirty3 has been dogging Winston all along and has stated that Winston will get benched for Hill. The truth doesn't matter. cmike and Lord_Saint83 like this.

10-08-2021, 06:11 PM	#4
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Saints vs Washington pre-game thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Thirty3 has been dogging Winston all along and has stated that Winston will get benched for Hill. The truth doesn't matter. Truth? What truth. That he had one game as good as Hills four games? The truth is he sucked for the first 1 and 3/4 quarters which allowed NYG to hang around and gain confidence. I haven’t dogged him badly. Just pointed out obvious flaws and why he is not the best QB on the roster. WHAT IS THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS POSITION LEAGUE STANDING AGAIN???
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10-08-2021, 06:20 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints vs Washington pre-game thread Originally Posted by Thirty3 Truth? What truth. That he had one game as good as Hills four games? The truth is he sucked for the first 1 and 3/4 quarters which allowed NYG to hang around and gain confidence. I haven’t dogged him badly. Just pointed out obvious flaws and why he is not the best QB on the roster. WHAT IS THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS POSITION LEAGUE STANDING AGAIN??? Winston is the 4th rated QB in the NFL through four games. You are blind, my friend. Blinded by what I am not sure. And if you honesty believe Hill is a better QB you know very little about the game. Just face the truth that you have a personal hatred for the man. What that hatred is based upon is your issue. But it is unfounded.

10-08-2021, 06:32 PM	#6
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Saints vs Washington pre-game thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Winston is the 4th rated QB in the NFL through four games. You are blind, my friend. Blinded by what I am not sure. And if you honesty believe Hill is a better QB you know very little about the game. Just face the truth that you have a personal hatred for the man. What that hatred is based upon is your issue. But it is unfounded. When a debate is being lost out come the personal attacks. HATE? You don’t know me. Winston sucked in Tampa as a Player and he sucks - so far- in New Orleans. I haven’t one time attacked him personally. I’ve only pointed out his shortcomings in regards to football necessary skills. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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10-08-2021, 06:54 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints vs Washington pre-game thread Originally Posted by Thirty3 When a debate is being lost out come the personal attacks. HATE? You don’t know me. Winston sucked in Tampa as a Player and he sucks - so far- in New Orleans. I haven’t one time attacked him personally. I’ve only pointed out his shortcomings in regards to football necessary skills. How did he suck in Tampa? He was stuck in offenses that demanded taking chances. He led the NFL in total passing in 2019. That doesn't suck. He was second in TD's. That doesn't suck. He has passed for more yardage and TD's than 99% of QB's that have ever played in the NFL in his first five years. That doesn't suck. Accurately define those shortcomings you claim. I emphasize "accurately".

10-08-2021, 10:43 AM	#8
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Saints vs Washington pre-game thread Originally Posted by K Major Last game starting Winston was 17/22 (73% comp) 226 yards / 1 TD & 0 ints vs the Giants ... probably his best game as a Saint thus far + he's starting to gel with Harris/MC & Stills. Is he costing us games? Why on earth would CSP bench him? You want Taysom in FT as QB? Ian Book perhaps? C'mon man. K, it don’t matter if he post a perfect qb rating the rest of this year. Some on here just don’t want him as qb for whatever reason but it’s ridiculous. If he was throwing ints left and right fine, but he’s not. But he’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I’ll say this again, if Hill was that damn good as some claim. He would of been starting qb, plain and simple RailBoss, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

10-08-2021, 10:56 AM	#9
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Saints vs Washington pre-game thread Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 K, it don’t matter if he post a perfect qb rating the rest of this year. Some on here just don’t want him as qb for whatever reason but it’s ridiculous. If he was throwing ints left and right fine but he’s not. But he’s damned if you damned you don’t. I’ll say this again, if Hill was that damn good as some claim. He would of been starting qb, plain and simple As they say everyone has their opinion and Lord knows you aren't changing it. The Giants game was on the Coach's especially on DA. That Kid Jones passed for 402 yards and 2 TD's, another breakout game for an underachieving QB. Not sure how to blame that on Jameis, I didn't recall see him playing in the defensive backfield.

10-08-2021, 11:03 AM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints vs Washington pre-game thread Originally Posted by RailBoss That Kid Jones passed for 402 yards and 2 TD's, another breakout game for an underachieving QB. At times Danny Dimes had as much as 5.5 seconds to go through his progressions. Corners can only cover for so long. Heinieke (sp) can scramble & is pretty accurate when he has time. Terry McLaurin (WR) is a solid target too. Keep your head on a swivel with Chase Young coming off the edge. CSP is career 3-4 vs Washington winning the last two games. I'm hopeful our pass rush performs better on Sunday. RailBoss likes this.