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SmashMouth 10-25-2021 10:48 AM

Hendrickson
 
Should we have kept TRex and traded away Davenport instead of dealing with Mr Glass Jr continually? Wonder what the cap repercussions would have been.

dizzle88 10-25-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 932071)
Should we have kept TRex and traded away Davenport instead of dealing with Mr Glass Jr continually? Wonder what the cap repercussions would have been.

Literally.

Not giving Andrus Beat that ridiculous contract would have left us with enough to pay T-rex.

cmike 10-25-2021 11:06 AM

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Trey didn’t become Trey until year 4. We’ve got some good talent that’s still in development. Trey benefited having an available Onyemata last season when he balled out. There hasn’t been any good pass rush since game 1.
That’s when Davenport was reckoning havoc from the jump.
Let’s see what an intact healthy front looks like in a week or two.

Boston Saint 10-25-2021 11:21 AM

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Trey has at least matched if not outplayed Davenport since day one. He’s outplaying him now with another team. The “havoc” Davenport causes in the brief times he is on the field is way overblown IMO. Nothing against him at all. I like him and pull for the guy. But his selection and the trade made to move into that spot have not paid off.

That being said, signing Trey was not possible based on the way things were set up. If we could have turned most of the Peat money into Trey money, and maybe spent the extra first rounder used to get Davenport on another OL position (or WR) then we’d be in great shape. Unfortunately spending additional resources on DL position, then hitting on an even better player at the same position with less a lower pick bit the team in the rear in this case.

jnormand 10-25-2021 11:22 AM

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Hendrickson is definitely earning his pay in Cincy. Davenport is what he always is. Flashes. But inconsistently. And injured.

One has to also question if Hendrickson would've developed quicker had he not been taking a backseat to Davenport while they tried to justify the draft pick for a season or 2.

K Major 10-25-2021 11:57 AM

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I’d hate to lose Marcus Williams after this season and allowing an elite boundary corner in Lattimore even more.

I’ve never been a fan of huge paydays off one stellar season. Risky.

This is what happens when you draft well. Can’t keep everyone.

ChrisXVI 10-25-2021 01:40 PM

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Who would’ve been trading for Davenport??

Boston Saint 10-25-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 932080)
I’d hate to lose Marcus Williams after this season and allowing an elite boundary corner in Lattimore even more.

I’ve never been a fan of huge paydays off one stellar season. Risky.

This is what happens when you draft well. Can’t keep everyone.

Spending two firsts and a third for Davenport was hardly drafting well.

SmashMouth 10-25-2021 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 932084)
Who would’ve been trading for Davenport??

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 932085)
Spending two firsts and a third for Davenport was hardly drafting well.

Therein lies the rub... prolly no team would have given us anything close to a number 1 pick, et alone what we spent to draft him.
:bugeyes:

K Major 10-25-2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 932085)
Spending two firsts and a third for Davenport was hardly drafting well.

Hindsight is 2020. The draft is always a gamble (high picks) however the Saints last 4+seasons of drafting has been better than most.

Davenport is talented but simply injury prone.

Boston Saint 10-25-2021 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 932099)
Hindsight is 2020. The draft is always a gamble (high picks) however the Saints last 4+seasons of drafting has been better than most.

Davenport is talented but simply injury prone.

Indeed hindsight is 2020. I’m not arguing that. But when the team decides to take the risk of spending what is essentially three draft picks on one player then that player is open to more scrutiny than someone that is drafted with a single pic. That’s just my opinion of course. However I hear all this talk about the havoc davenport creates as justification for spending three picks on him. I just disagree with this. That’s my only point.

iceshack149 10-25-2021 03:12 PM

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I'm just glad that we're having this discussion while a certain member is out to sea...

cmike 10-25-2021 04:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 932080)
I’d hate to lose Marcus Williams after this season and allowing an elite boundary corner in Lattimore even more.

I’ve never been a fan of huge paydays off one stellar season. Risky.

This is what happens when you draft well. Can’t keep everyone.

Good point. Let’s say we don’t Draft #92 and don’t give up those picks. We stay put and use what we got in that draft. Let’s say those picks ball out, do we have the money to keep CGM,AK, RAM, LATT and MWillams! Probably not. But since we’re using hypotheticals, let’s say Davenport comes back and terrorizes linemen, would that be enough. Would he have to break the sack record to justify the picks. Or using those picks on 3 scrubs that probably wouldn’t still be on the roster be enough to satisfy. I remember a guy named Malcolm Jenkins whom was drafted by the Saints. He was decent. During a playoff game against the 49ers, he stunk it up bad. People called him one of the worst 1st rd picks the Saints ever made. He couldn’t get out of town fast enough. He went on to become a 3x pro bowler and SB champion. The crazy thing, I was one of those nay sayers. I’m not giving up on Davenport just yet.

Boston Saint 10-25-2021 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 932120)
Good point. Let’s say we don’t Draft #92 and don’t give up those picks. We stay put and use what we got in that draft. Let’s say those picks ball out, do we have the money to keep CGM,AK, RAM, LATT and MWillams! Probably not. But since we’re using hypotheticals, let’s say Davenport comes back and terrorizes linemen, would that be enough. Would he have to break the sack record to justify the picks. Or using those picks on 3 scrubs that probably wouldn’t still be on the roster be enough to satisfy. I remember a guy named Malcolm Jenkins whom was drafted by the Saints. He was decent. During a playoff game against the 49ers, he stunk it up bad. People called him one of the worst 1st rd picks the Saints ever made. He couldn’t get out of town fast enough. He went on to become a 3x pro bowler and SB champion. The crazy thing, I was one of those nay sayers. I’m not giving up on Davenport just yet.

All good points. As you said, it’s all hindsight. I hope more than anything that Davenport comes back and does indeed wreak havoc !

saintfan 10-25-2021 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 932111)
I'm just glad that we're having this discussion while a certain member is out to sea...

Language, but oh so funny and hey...a dude can dream...


saintfan 10-25-2021 07:02 PM

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Rugby Saint II 10-26-2021 04:27 PM

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I can't blame Davenport for the team spending draft picks on him. It isn't like he was the GM who made the move. If I remember correctly it was two firsts and a fifth for a player with incredible potential that was usually healthy in college. Davenport gets better every year but he's not available way too often to make a reasonable determination about his future..

jeanpierre 10-26-2021 05:08 PM

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Cam approves...



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